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Just got word from Road Atlanta that they were able to work things out, so there IS at test day on Thursday, March 17!

There is no pre-Registration for the Test Day but we'll post more Test Day info at www.AtlantaSCCA.org shortly.

Butch

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Proposed schedule (registration should be up on MSR in early February):

Group 1 - EP, FP, GTL, HP, SRF (split start for SRF)
Group 2 - SM
Group 3 - AS, GT1, GT2, GT3, STO, T1
Group 4 - CSR, DSR, FA, FB, FE, FM
Group 5 - SSB, SSC, STU, T2, T3
Group 6 - F5, FC, FF, FV, S2
Group 7 - ECR & Pro-IT

Thu, March 17
. gates open at 5:00 PM, move in until 9:00 PM

Fri, March 18
. consecutive 25 minute qualifying for Sat race
. 30 minute Group 7 qualifying
. consecutive 25 minute qualifying for Sun race

Sat, March 19
. consecutive 10 minute qualifying for Sat race
. 20 minute Group 7 qualifying
. 18 lap National races for Groups 1-2
. lunch break
. 18 lap National races for Groups 3-6
. 90 minute Group 7 race (Pro-IT called at 45 minutes)

Sun, March 20
. consecutive 10 minute qualifying for Sun race
. PDX sessions during county-mandated Quiet Time
. 18 lap National races for Groups 1-6

I monitor this site so let me know if you have any questions.

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One suggestions, Switch group 2 and group 3 around. many of the SM racers will also be running in either STU and/or the ECR/Pro IT races. The current schedule puts all 3 after lunch. Moving SM to group 2 puts them before lunch.

Just my 2 cents
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Come and get it guys, registration is OPEN!

http://www.atlantascca.org/
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As Lance posted above, the Supps, Schedule, and Registration links are now available at www.AtlantaSCCA.org.

Although they are working to at least make the afternoon available for testing, at this time Road Atlanta is not able to offer any test sessions on Thursday (3/17). We'll update the Atlanta Region website if that changes, but you can also contact Road Atlanta directly.

And just so you know we DO listen on occasion ( :rolleyes: ), we switched groups 2 & 3 as suggested above.

See y'all at the track...

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Butch

as you know I am a big fan of the Atlanta Region and the races it hosts. I do most of my racing there. However, for this event, IMHO opinion the entry fees for the ECR/ProIT are really out of touch.

I have no problem with the race fees for the National

But combining the two races (Pro-IT and ECR) into one race and then asking us to pay $250 for each race means that we paying $500 to enter both and in fact ware only getting the 1-1/2 hour enduro time - we normally would be getting another 40 minute session for the other $250. Really missing a lot of track time but still paying for it. Seems that there should be a STEEP discount to do both. Just my $0.02c

Curious what others think on this

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I guess I don't understand your question Danny.

ECR only is $375
Pro-IT only is $275

Either one gets you a 30-minute session on Friday and a 20-minute session on Saturday. The ECR race is 90 minutes (for a total of 140 minutes offered) while the Pro-IT is 45 minutes (total of 95 minutes), so I think the entry fees are roughly proportional to the track time offered.

Entry fee if you want to run both is $550 (a "discount" of $100), which is the ECR fee + the prize money portion of the Pro-IT fee (50% or $137.50) + a nominal amount ($37.50) to cover sanction fees (you can get credit for two races since they're separate sanction numbers), worker fees to National, etc.

What am I missing?

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Looking at it further (assuming 40 minutes for the SM National races):

Single Nat = 75 minutes track time @ $295 = $3.93 / minute offered
Double Nat = 150 minutes track time @ $525 = $3.50 / minute
ECR only = 140 minutes track time @ $375 = $2.67 / minute
Pro-IT only = 95 minutes track time @ $275 = $2.89 / minute
ECR/Pro-IT = 140 minutes track time @ $550 = $3.92 / minute

BUT if you run any combination with the Pro-IT you're also eligible for prize money which further reduces the cost per minute. The bargain if you're looking at track time / dollar would be to run the Pro-IT only (and hope to do well), but running in combination spreads out your fixed costs.

BTW, you did see that you get a $75 discount on the ECR if you run it in any combination with the National(s), correct?

Bottom line, I think we're pretty fairly priced but I'm open to discussion if you think I'm missing something...

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So far we have:

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Just got word from Road Atlanta that they were able to work things out, so there IS at test day on Thursday, March 17!

There is no pre-Registration for the Test Day but we'll post more Test Day info at www.AtlantaSCCA.org shortly.

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Just a reminder that early registration for the March 18-20 Double National / ECR / Pro-IT / PDX weekend at Road Atlanta closes at noon EST on Monday, March 14. I'll also remind you that funds will not be deposited until after the event and refunds are automatic for no-shows, so if you're even thinking about attending there's absolutely no financial risk to going ahead and registering now.

Links to the Supps, Schedule, Test Day info and registration system (there's no pre-registration for Thursday's Test Day) can be found at www.AtlantaSCCA.org.

See y'all at the track...

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I made the move to the Atlanta area recently to start a new office for my company and it has taken all my time so I'm not going to have my car ready in time for this race.

I would liek to come over and hang out and I can provide some trackside assistance if anyone can use it.

Does anyone have any crew spots that they can list me under?


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Mark, have you ever worked F&C before? If not we'll train you and we can use the help. Welcome to the area... you'll like it here.
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