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I'm looking to get one and I see 3-4 styles, what one works best for SM?

Digital or not? Off the wheel or off the hub?

1. http://www.advancedr...cs/smartbig.jpg
digital of the wheel

2. http://www.motorspor...es/lon78270.jpg
analog of the hub

3. http://www.fast-auto...90411683495.jpg
digital off the wheel

4. http://ecx.images-am...L500_AA300_.jpg
digitl off the hub


5. http://ecx.images-am...L500_AA300_.jpg
analog of the wheel

anyone use these?

http://www.bbxracing...1cmprs.JPGhese?

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If you decide on pic #1, give me a call. I have one on the shelf that I ordered for a customer and he never picked it up.

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I have #1.
it works well and is simple to use. make sure you get the lower part, its called the hands free attachment.
it makes working with the gauge much easier.
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I own, 1, 2 and 5. I use #1.
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I own, 1, 2 and 5. I use #1.


Mike,
How do you keep it (#1) stable on wheels such as Team Dynamics which don't have a machined lip?
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I dont see anyone using the magnetic digital intercomp. Looks like the best one out there. Anybody ever use it ????

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Personal opinion here:

I own 3 of the 5 listed
I have used 4 of the 5
I have used several other digital versions.

I use none of them.

I have not found a digital gauge that is repeatable enough for me. I have checked the camber on the "I" beam that holds up my shop roof. And can not get 2 digital gauges to read the same. I can not get the same gauge to read the same (or oposite) when measuring the left side of the beam compared to the right side of the beam.

I went so far as to get a piece of steel machined at a 3* angle so I would have an accurate standard to measure against. No 2 digital guages read the same.

I use an old school bubble guage. Never goes out of calibration, batteries never go dead. If I drop it, there is no repair bill. I keep one in my tool box, one at the allignment rack and one in the trailer. And they all read the same!!!!

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I set it so it hits in the middle of the flat and then visually make sure I center it every time. We don't run a lot of the TD wheels.
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I use none of the above. I bought the Iron Canyon motorsports set up from them. I am just a customer, and I love it. simple, low cost and easy. Three reasons why I bought it. http://www.ironcanyo...&products_id=49

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Is that the gauges fault or all the friggin snow on the roof bending the beam, LOL!

Personal opinion here:

I own 3 of the 5 listed
I have used 4 of the 5
I have used several other digital versions.

I use none of them.

I have not found a digital gauge that is repeatable enough for me. I have checked the camber on the "I" beam that holds up my shop roof. And can not get 2 digital gauges to read the same. I can not get the same gauge to read the same (or oposite) when measuring the left side of the beam compared to the right side of the beam.

I went so far as to get a piece of steel machined at a 3* angle so I would have an accurate standard to measure against. No 2 digital guages read the same.

I use an old school bubble guage. Never goes out of calibration, batteries never go dead. If I drop it, there is no repair bill. I keep one in my tool box, one at the allignment rack and one in the trailer. And they all read the same!!!!

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I use one similar to this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...2#ht_2619wt_762

I like the fact that a screw & bubble system is simple and repeatable and it doesn't require power.
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Guys, i just acquired a Intercomp bubble type caster camber gauge.Does anyone know What adapter I would need to make this work for the miata wheel/hub.

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I'm looking for the same thing, but in the meantime... I got a good deal on a Joe's CC gauge but the adapter that came with it doesn't fit. I put one of my wheel spacers over the studs up against the lug nuts to give me a nice flat place to set the CC gauge. Makes it easy to take measurements but the spacer is aluminum so I have to hold it in place. I thought of just taking a piece of 1/8" steel and drill some 4x100 holes so the magnets will hold it in place. A bit more of a PITA but effective.
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There has to be a device or a adapter that someone out there has used that makes it easy to use the magnet. How about the plate you suggest bolted directly to the CC gauge. Put it over the long studs with 2 nuts ??

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There are adapters that will fit and I think I know what should fit, but not being sure I won't say I do and let you find out if I'm right. B) It has to fit through the wheel center hole but around the rear hub nuts so it sits flat.

I wouldn't bolt the gauge directly to something resembling a wheel spacer. When you roll the car back and forth you want to end up with the level...level, which you'd have to do by twisting the gauge or carefully moving the car. I bolt the spacer to the studs like you mention to provide a flat surface. If the spacer was steel the magnetic adapter I have now would just stick it to the spacer. Instead I just hold it against the flat surface. More of a pain measuring caster than anything else. It works though if you don't have a proper adapter handy.
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There has to be a device or a adapter that someone out there has used that makes it easy to use the magnet. How about the plate you suggest bolted directly to the CC gauge. Put it over the long studs with 2 nuts ??


What's to guarantee that the plate is square with the hub...??? That is my worry.
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What's to guarantee that the plate is square with the hub...??? That is my worry.


Unless the wheel casting is way off or the lug nuts are different lengths, with all 4 lug nuts torqued down the flat end of the lug nuts should be square with the hub. If I was super precise, it might not be acceptable. If I'm off by a 1/10, that's about as close as I can get with a bubble level. To find out if it's square though, roll the car fwd and backwards a bit and remeasure at different points. If it's not square, the measurement will change.
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