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If a tree fell in the middle of the forest and no one was around would it make a noise? We have all
heard that theoretical question to which the answer is of course it would, but shy of some strategi-
cally placed recording equipment there is no way of proving it. The relevance to San Francisco Re-
gion road racing is: if we held a race and no one announced the race did it really happen?

 

Somehow or another our board decided that
announcing or doing the color for our races
was not necessary. Apparently they received
complaints that the public address system was
annoying.  Some people were complaining that
all the noise was hindering their ability to do
the job. According to some board members they
have received several complaints regarding the
constant barrage of noise coming from the public
address system.

 
Because of these complaints it was decided that
the region would ask our announce crew to only
use the PA system for essential announcements,
you know things like the speed in the paddock is
slightly faster then a brisk walking pace; group
six to pre-pre-grid; or we found some keys to
a Tesla, please come up and identify. Naturally
the people that agreed to be our announce crew
decided that would not be very much fun so
they decided to support the club in a different
manner.

 
The worst part of this decision was it was based
on a few complaints.  There was never any
research done on this matter.  No one ever polled
the driver’s, no one ever polled the entire work
force, no one ever asked the crews what they
thought about this.  So based on some com-
plaints from a few people it was decided that the
color or play-by-play announcing of the races
would cease.

 
I do not know who was complaining, but I have
to ask, if you are at a race track why would you
expect there to be peace and quiet. When I go
to the race track I look forward to the noise.  I
like the sound of the cars slowing down for the
turn and accelerating down the straight.  I like
the sound of the tires screaming for adhesion.  I
like the sound of the announcer letting me know
what the hell is going on. I like all of that. Asking
the announcer to be quiet while a race is going
on is like asking the sound technician to turn
down the music at a rock concert!

 
As board members we have to keep in mind who

the customer is at the race track.  It is not the
volunteer work force.  The people paying the
bills are the drivers.  They pay the entry fee that
pays for the entire operation.  So if there was
ever going to be decisions that effect the driver’s
wouldn’t you think that there would have been a
formal polling of them to see what their thoughts
are?

 
As a driver it does not make much sense to me
to eliminate the race play-by-play.  As a driver
I want people to know how I am doing.  I want
my crew to hear my name on the loud speaker.  I
want my sponsors name announced. I want my
wife to hear my name. All of these things are the
sizzle that sells the steak. Once we decide not to
announce the races we have become a track day
club.

 
The announcers have a better view then most
people at the track.  They tell the audience what
is happening on the other parts of the track.

 
In addition to satisfying the driver’s need for
an ego massage, the spectators need to hear
the announcer describing the wheel-to-wheel
racing.  They need to hear the excitement in
his voice. They need to understand that this is
exciting edge-of-your-seat thrills. How are we
going to create excitement if there is just a bunch
of cars going around without anyone sharing
describing what the driver is feeling, what the
driver is thinking, and what the driver is trying
to do? How are your race weekends going to sell
new members or new drivers without someone
explaining what is going on?

 
We are trying very hard to attract new members
who will hopefully become new volunteers or
new drivers. How do we do that without the
buzz created by announcing the races?  I just do
not get how we came up with this decision.

 
But to be fair, our public address system could
be toned down at the right time.  We already
shut everything down once the races are done
for that day and do our best to have silence
during the lunch break.  I can understand if a

volunteer is trying to communicate via the radio
with someone at the other end of the paddock
and every time they try to talk there is someone
blasting away.  I get that, but I think the solution
the board came up with was throwing the baby
out with the bath water.

 
One thing we might need to look at is the ability
to turn down or off certain speakers that are
directly blaring into the ear of a particular group.
I can see how a public address system stepping
on your conversation could be difficult.  So are
some of the complaints justified?  Most likely but
you do not eliminate the most important part of
the weekend to address those complaints.  You
come up with some compromises, you do not
eliminate one of the best things about the week-
end because of a few complaints.

 
Where do we go from here? For the short term,
I am happy to say that the race play-by-play will
return.  I am happy to announce we once again
have an announce crew.  The long term solution
will be a survey that will be designed so that as
board members we can find out exactly what our
members want from the announce crew.

 
So if you are in the same camp that I am, please
participate and let the world know that a race
without an announcer is like a tree falling in the
middle of the forest.


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One of the better things about racing is the contrast between the noise of the cars and the quiet when there are none on the track.  If wanted to be constantly bombarded by music and DJ's in love with their own voices I'd hang out at the base of a ski resort.   :devil:



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+1 for what Peter said.

STFU unless you are actually announcing the schedule, sponsors or cars on track. And don't bother with the latter unless the system has been checked and working (most are so bad and intermittent that it's torture). Don't fill time with commentary. And don't even think about playing music - at least half the people will hate whatever you choose.
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Too much noise at a race track?  Really??

 

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From my perspective of the VIR live video and broadcast, the broadcasters liked to listen to themselves. I forget which class, one of them commented is the closest racing in SCCA.  :barf:     And it wasn't Spec Miata or SRF, it was a closed wheel class. :uhwhat:


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 And don't even think about playing music - at least half the people will hate whatever you choose.

 

Are you saying that half the people don't like Madonna?


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Too much noise at a race track? Really??

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Yes, too much of the WRONG noise.
Blah, blah, blah, I'm so funny. Blah, blah, I'm so smart. Blah, blah.
They should be like Joe Friday.
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Are you saying that half the people don't like Madonna?


Might depend on the decade but probably not.
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They should be like Jack Friday.

 

____ please come to the tower, just you, not your car.

and play the first part of this.


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when I am in the paddock working on the car between races, the last thing I want to hear is Blah Blah Blah from an announcer.  At every pro motorcycle race I have been in, the paddock and garages are on a separate channel from the race announcer. At most tracks we set up the TV in the garage so we can hear the race announcer (and so we can turn it off if we need to focus on the prep work)  Daytona is a good example. The announcer is not broadcast in the garages.

Maybe I'm just old and grumpy.


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The article copied at the top and as the title mentions...was a decision by the SFR SCCA. For years they have had 2 announcers who have swapped between groups...and for the most part they do talk non-stop. I have never formally complained but I have yelled out-loud in the paddock to STFU! I'm for substance rather than filler during races. Announcing grid for each race is good...this is one thing our local NASA doesn't do and I think they could benefit from it. 

 

The constant effort to sell crap over the PA system(specfic to Thunderhill and the Author of the above article)could also be toned way down!  As well as the over the PA interview with some driver/person that 99% of the people could care less about while they are eating their lunch!!


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