Why not run topless?
#1
Posted 05-26-2011 10:34 AM
So why do most guys have them on the car. Just wondering...
#2
Posted 05-26-2011 10:40 AM
So why do most guys have them on the car. Just wondering...
Because they have nothing better to do with $1,000.00
Cuts a cleaner hole through the air. Less aero drag on the car, hence car travels faster.
#3
Posted 05-26-2011 11:24 AM
#4
Posted 05-26-2011 12:33 PM
#5
Posted 05-26-2011 12:47 PM
#6
Posted 05-26-2011 01:06 PM
#7
Posted 05-26-2011 05:46 PM
#8
Posted 05-26-2011 07:03 PM
I'm just thinking if i ever race one of these things that the car would be faster with my lardass in the seat and the top in the garage.
If one has a lard ass one should procure a 99. Legal weight is 2450 pounds with driver. With cage IIRC they weigh approx 2125 pounds. Man, that's 325 pounds of lard. On the other hand the 90/93 with cage weighs 2020 pounds & must weigh 2275 pounds. That's only 250 pounds of lard.
#9
Posted 05-26-2011 07:32 PM
#10
Posted 05-26-2011 10:13 PM
Road America you'd get smoked on the straights... But since drag is related to speed^2, if you're on a track where your speeds are low... then the slight disadvantage may just be equaled out with the slight advantage of a lower CG (still have to make weight - those tops weight about 35-40 lbs with brackets).
Cage/helmet clearance and need for arm restraints may be the only technical reason most don't.
Weather is the other reason - but that one can go both ways. Rain sucks, but so does sitting in a hot, enclosed car.
At Waterford Hills, where top speeds are in the 92mph range, if its nice out I occasionally run with the hard-top off. Awesome experience with the fresh air and sky above your head - even get better visibility and awareness since there is less 'stuff' blocking view/sound. And temps inside the cabin are much cooler - not to mention ingress/egress improves. I bought my arm-restraints for something like $30, and will bring extra weights/bolts along so I can do the swap if I so desire.
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#11
Posted 05-27-2011 11:38 AM
I'm curious have you ever compared lap times to determine whether you're faster with/without top?At Waterford Hills, where top speeds are in the 92mph range, if its nice out I occasionally run with the hard-top off. Awesome experience with the fresh air and sky above your head - even get better visibility and awareness since there is less 'stuff' blocking view/sound. And temps inside the cabin are much cooler - not to mention ingress/egress improves. I bought my arm-restraints for something like $30, and will bring extra weights/bolts along so I can do the swap if I so desire.
Steve Elicati
1994 ITA miata #01
#12
Posted 05-28-2011 04:02 PM
I figured aero would be a factor but if you build a 426 CI cheater motor it should't be a problem keeping up.....
#13
Posted 06-01-2011 02:51 PM
I'm curious have you ever compared lap times to determine whether you're faster with/without top?
Difficult to say exactly which is faster since I have not done a back-to-back under the same conditions. With that said, lap times were comparable - variance is within the noise of the samples.
I just do it for the cool factor.
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#14
Posted 06-01-2011 08:49 PM
... I have not done a back-to-back under the same conditions....
You could always Dyno both and compare the results.
Just a thought, might not be a good one, but can't say it isn't unique.
#15
Posted 06-02-2011 11:20 AM
1.6 can make same power as a 1.8 when run topless...
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#16
Posted 06-02-2011 12:12 PM
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