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I had planned to post this under "Announcements", but it says I'm not allowed to start a topic there. Hopefully a Moderator will move it because the ARRC by GRM is more than just a SEDiv event!

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Although registration for the event will not open until late September, we’re already getting requests for information about the 2011 running of the ARRC by GRM at Road Atlanta. Although this is not “official” (i.e. – sanction numbers have not been issued), those of you that like to plan ahead can start making travel arrangements.

Website (soon to be updated with all this and more): http://www.atlantascca.org/arrc.html

Dates: November 4 thru 6, 2011
Location: Road Atlanta, Braselton GA

Changes from 2010 (and before):
. NO restrictions on Runoffs drivers competing at the ARRC by GRM
. SM & SM2 can use the Toyo R-888, the Toyo RA-1, or the Hoosier SM-6 tire (all four tires must be the same)
. Groups 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 12 will be in the Club Racing paddock; Groups 3, 7, 8, 10, and 11 will be in the Infield paddock
(those racing in multiple groups will have to decide what works best for them)
. Drivers in the Pro Enterprises races can also sign up for Friday’s qualifying sessions to gain additional track time for $200

Entry fees:
. Championship races - $325
. “Second” Championship race (same car, different class) - $200
. Pro-IT only - $325
. Pro-IT if signed up for any other race - $275
. Three Hour - $395
. Three Hour if signed up for any other race - $200
. All Pro SRF & FE sessions – see SCCA Pro
. Pro SRF & FE additional Friday sessions - $200

Test Day: There WILL be a track-sanctioned test day on Thursday, November 3. In the past there have been four groups with four 20-25 minute sessions each, and I don’t see that changing this year. Traditionally the cost has been $225 for the entire day and Road Atlanta offers a pro-rated amount depending on the number of sessions left when you sign up. There is no pre-registration – sign up at the window.

Anticipated Championship Race Groups:
. Group 1 – BS (B-Spec), GT3, GTL, EP, FP, HP, SPU, SRF, SRFP, SSB, SSC, STL
. Group 2 – GT1, GTA, SPO
. Group 3 – CF, F500, F600, FF, FFX, FST, FV
. Group 4 – ITR, ITS, IT7, ITB
. Group 5 – SM, SM2, SSM
. Group 6 – ITA, ITC, ITT
. Group 7 – AS, GT2, ITO, SM5, SP2, SP3, STO, STU, T1, T2, T3
. Group 8 – ASR, CFC, CSR, DSR, FA, FB, FC, FE, FEP, FM, FS, S2000

Additional Groups:
. Group 9 – Pro-IT (IT7, ITA, ITB, ITR, ITS, ITT, ITX)
. Group 10 – Pro SRF
. Group 11 – Pro FE
. Group 12 – ECR Three Hour (IT7, ITA, ITB, ITC, ITO, ITR, ITS, ITX, SM, SRF, SSB, SSC)

Friday, Nov 4
. 15-minute qualifying sessions, Groups 1-9
. 20-minute practice sessions, Groups 10 & 11
. 15-minute qualifying sessions (or optional 6-lap races), Groups 1-8 - gridded in Qual #1 order
. 45-minute Pro-IT race, Group 9
. Social at the Chalet in the Club Racing paddock

Saturday, Nov 5
. Hardship warm-up lap (out at T-1, in at T-11) – requires Chief Steward approval
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Championship races, Groups 1-4
. Track Tours during lunch break
. 20-minute qualifying sessions, Groups 10 & 11
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Championship races, Groups 5-8
. Social at the Chalet in the Club Racing paddock

Sunday, Nov 6
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #1, Group 10 (Pro SRF)
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #1, Group 11 (Pro FE)
. 20-minute qualifying for Group 12 (ECR)
. PDX sessions during Quiet Time
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #2, Group 10 (Pro SRF)
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #2, Group 11 (Pro FE)
. Three Hour ECR race, Group 12

I’ll also be posting this on various forums that I frequent, so let me know if you have questions/concerns/suggestions.

Hope to see y’all at the track…

Butch Kummer
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Atlanta Region SCCA

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I hope I'm not the only one, but I'm shocked as to the inclusion of the Hoosier SM6 into this event. Why hasn't this been mentioned?

I figure a lot of the guys will probably want to use up spare tires from Runoffs, etc to finish out the season and transition to Hoosier. Lets leave the 2012 Rules for 2012.

Blake

I had planned to post this under "Announcements", but it says I'm not allowed to start a topic there. Hopefully a Moderator will move it because the ARRC by GRM is more than just a SEDiv event!

= = = = = = = = =

Although registration for the event will not open until late September, we’re already getting requests for information about the 2011 running of the ARRC by GRM at Road Atlanta. Although this is not “official” (i.e. – sanction numbers have not been issued), those of you that like to plan ahead can start making travel arrangements.

Website (soon to be updated with all this and more): http://www.atlantascca.org/arrc.html

Dates: November 4 thru 6, 2011
Location: Road Atlanta, Braselton GA

Changes from 2010 (and before):
. NO restrictions on Runoffs drivers competing at the ARRC by GRM
. SM & SM2 can use the Toyo R-888, the Toyo RA-1, or the Hoosier SM-6 tire (all four tires must be the same)
. Groups 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 12 will be in the Club Racing paddock; Groups 3, 7, 8, 10, and 11 will be in the Infield paddock
(those racing in multiple groups will have to decide what works best for them)
. Drivers in the Pro Enterprises races can also sign up for Friday’s qualifying sessions to gain additional track time for $200

Entry fees:
. Championship races - $325
. “Second” Championship race (same car, different class) - $200
. Pro-IT only - $325
. Pro-IT if signed up for any other race - $275
. Three Hour - $395
. Three Hour if signed up for any other race - $200
. All Pro SRF & FE sessions – see SCCA Pro
. Pro SRF & FE additional Friday sessions - $200

Test Day: There WILL be a track-sanctioned test day on Thursday, November 3. In the past there have been four groups with four 20-25 minute sessions each, and I don’t see that changing this year. Traditionally the cost has been $225 for the entire day and Road Atlanta offers a pro-rated amount depending on the number of sessions left when you sign up. There is no pre-registration – sign up at the window.

Anticipated Championship Race Groups:
. Group 1 – BS (B-Spec), GT3, GTL, EP, FP, HP, SPU, SRF, SRFP, SSB, SSC, STL
. Group 2 – ITA, ITC, ITT
. Group 3 – CF, F500, F600, FF, FFX, FST, FV
. Group 4 – ITR, ITS, IT7, ITB
. Group 5 – SM, SM2, SSM
. Group 6 – GT1, GTA, SPO
. Group 7 – AS, GT2, ITO, SM5, SP2, SP3, STO, STU, T1, T2, T3
. Group 8 – ASR, CFC, CSR, DSR, FA, FB, FC, FE, FEP, FM, FS, S2000

Additional Groups:
. Group 9 – Pro-IT (IT7, ITA, ITB, ITR, ITS, ITT, ITX)
. Group 10 – Pro SRF
. Group 11 – Pro FE
. Group 12 – ECR Three Hour (IT7, ITA, ITB, ITC, ITO, ITR, ITS, ITX, SM, SRF, SSB, SSC)

Friday, Nov 4
. 15-minute qualifying sessions, Groups 1-9
. 20-minute practice sessions, Groups 10 & 11
. 15-minute qualifying sessions (or optional 6-lap races), Groups 1-8 - gridded in Qual #1 order
. 45-minute Pro-IT race, Group 9
. Social at the Chalet in the Club Racing paddock

Saturday, Nov 5
. Hardship warm-up lap (out at T-1, in at T-11) – requires Chief Steward approval
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Championship races, Groups 1-4
. Track Tours during lunch break
. 20-minute qualifying sessions, Groups 10 & 11
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Championship races, Groups 5-8
. Social at the Chalet in the Club Racing paddock

Sunday, Nov 6
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #1, Group 10 (Pro SRF)
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #1, Group 11 (Pro FE)
. 20-minute qualifying for Group 12 (ECR)
. PDX sessions during Quiet Time
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #2, Group 10 (Pro SRF)
. 20-lap (or 40-minute) Race #2, Group 11 (Pro FE)
. Three Hour ECR race, Group 12

I’ll also be posting this on various forums that I frequent, so let me know if you have questions/concerns/suggestions.

Hope to see y’all at the track…

Butch Kummer
Competition Director
Atlanta Region SCCA


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I'm open to input.

What tires do you guys want to run at the 2011 ARRC by GRM?

Obviously those that have already burned up their supply of RA-1s will have to buy a new set(s) for a single event, so is that what you want?

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Since this event is supposed to be a 2011 championship event. It should be run under 2011 rules. Including tires. We did not run Hoosiers during the 2011 season and should not be running them at the 2011 championship event.

My opinion for what it is worth

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Here's one vote from the mid-pack for RA1s. Looking forward to it, Butch!!

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I hope I'm not the only one, but I'm shocked as to the inclusion of the Hoosier SM6 into this event. Why hasn't this been mentioned?

I figure a lot of the guys will probably want to use up spare tires from Runoffs, etc to finish out the season and transition to Hoosier. Lets leave the 2012 Rules for 2012.

Blake


I agree with Blake & Dave. The RA1 is our tire this year, we should all run the race on it.
I don't particularly like the inclusion of runoffs participants in the same class either. Thought this race was everyone else's chance? Lots of other classes to run in without buying a new car.
Still very much looking forward to it.
Could you work on the weather a bit for this year, Butch?
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Here is my opinion as a back marker at Atlanta. If I run out of all my Ra1's at the NASA champs race which I am almost sure to do. I do not want to buy new Ra1's to run the ARRC. I would most likely skip the event, although nobody would ever miss me :D!

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I've been running the ARRC for the last 6 years and I like the tire rule as proposed - actually I think we should allow any DOT tire...

In my opinion this is a regional event and being that it's really a fun event held at the end of the season we shoud at least be able to use next years tires. In the past guys have run Hoosier's and I was always on Toyo's and found it didn't really seem to matter all that much.

I currently have three sets of RA-1's in various worn condition but if this proposed rule is not changed I plan to buy a set of R6's and start to gather data for next season. Should SM be forced to run Toyo tires I might jump ship and run ITA to follow my plan.

Open tire rule = more racers may attend


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Does anyone happen to know of a Road Atlanta test day between now and then?
Would also need to rent a car.
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I've gotten a couple more requests to separate ITA & STL so it's easier for the ITA folks to double-dip. What I'm now considering is swapping Group 2 (ITA, ITC, ITT) and Group 6 (Big Noise). That will allow both the SM & ITA guys to double-dip in STL while the ITR & ITS guys can double-dip in STU.

I need to make sure the Big Noise guys (many of whom come from places far away) won't mind racing earlier on Saturday, but by racing Saturday afternoon the ITA/ITC cars have less time to clear Impound/Protests before the Awards party Saturday night (obviously this is not a problem if everyone agrees to be compliant and play well together ).

While posting the proposal on the IT forums I also realized this could impact the SM guys that want to double-dip (or share a car) in ITA. How many people do this and could you double-dip in SM & STL instead?

Thank you for your input... :rolleyes:

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Original post editted to reflect swapping Groups 2 & 6 to allow the ITA guys to double-dip in STL. There was no concern expressed by SM guys wanting to double-dip in ITA, but you can do the same thing in STL if you so desire.

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