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[Jamz14]

I noticed in the GCRs that the windows must be down during a race. But can we remove the door glass altogether? It doesn't state that we can but I thought I had seen cars with the door bars so far into the door I didn't think there was glass in them.

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[LarryKing]

You kinda answered your own question. Yes you can gut the door, including glass, if you have 'NASCAR' door bars. By the way, that's in the GCR too.

[Bench Racer]

But can we remove the door glass altogether? It doesn't state that we can but I thought I had seen cars with the door bars so far into the door I didn't think there was glass in them.
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If you review the SCCA roll cage rules starting on page GCR-102 (not within the SMCS rules) of the 2011 GCR (most likely different page for the 2012 GCR) and specificallly on page GCR-107 item D. Side Protection you'll find info about no windows. If you look at the GCR glossary it will define NASCAR bars.

[Jamz14]

Thanks Moose. David, Sorry I missed it. I do try to read the rules as throughly as possible. I didn't expect to find the answer in the glossary though. I think my problem is that I am looking at the SM specific GCRs and not looking at the complete set. I will correct that.

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[Doug007]

No glass. Wouldn't want that in my door while racing wheel to wheel...

Advance-autosports makes some nice brackets to put your windows back in for transport/storage. Or you can use a piece of angle iron and fab something yourself.

[Jamz14]

Thanks Doug,

I didn't think you would want glass but I didn't specifically seeit in the sections I was looking in. But , I was looking in the wrong section.

Thank you

[Jamz14]

Well, with a full copy of the GCR, answers to questions became very clear. Thank you all for helping in the mean time.

[davew]

Back in the olden days of 2001, we could not gut the passenger door. Only straight bars where allowed. Somebody got hit in the dorr 3 weeks in a row and shattered the glass each time. He decided that the rule said the door glass can not be removed. So he cleaned up the broken glass, put it in a baggies, wrapped it in duct tape and put the baggie in the bottom of the door.

I guess he would have been DQed for an illegal modification to the door glass.

Ahhhhhhh, The good old days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave

[pat slattery]

Nascar bars does not mean you can remove the glass, unless the bars intrude into the doors.

[Rob Burgoon]

Lameass rule anyway. Write a CRB email!

[fotostars]

No glass. Wouldn't want that in my door while racing wheel to wheel... Advance-autosports makes some nice brackets to put your windows back in for transport/storage. Or you can use a piece of angle iron and fab something yourself.

+1 on Dave's brackets at Advance-Autosports. They're very convenient for transport/storage!