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What were the results? Was it even close?

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sorry to tell you the francis crew no factor your in trouble when i come to mid ohio

by the way you bet on the wrong horsey lol
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What were the results? Was it even close?

No it wasn't close! Especially after the kids car was found to be non-compliant after qualifying with a hogged out exhaust. Apparently Breathless does do good work as the pictures show very nice work; illegal but very nice. :) Of course that was the first thing they checked on his car and they stopped looking after that. It was good to see NASA had a cam doctor, whistler, and other tech tools waiting for the top cars. The kid did drive another car but was off the pace. So what is the punishment for a first class cheat in NASA. You know the kind that requires hours of work and is knowingly put on a car even after everybody called you out and you told everybody it was your special grease, superior aerodynamics, and just plain old bad prep by everyone else. Oh ya! We can't drive either!!! Don't start the show without me. I have to get another bag of popcorn.
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sorry to tell you the francis crew no factor your in trouble when i come to mid ohio

by the way you bet on the wrong horsey lol


Not in trouble when and if you come to mid Ohio. I am just in trouble in general LOL.

I just wanted the kid to beat you so we would have a really awesome couple of weeks on the forum, and Jim could sell lots of advertising :)

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No it wasn't close! Especially after the kids car was found to be non-compliant after qualifying with a hogged out exhaust. Apparently Breathless does do good work as the pictures show very nice work; illegal but very nice. :) Of course that was the first thing they checked on his car and they stopped looking after that. It was good to see NASA had a cam doctor, whistler, and other tech tools waiting for the top cars. The kid did drive another car but was off the pace.


Jamie, so did NASA stop looking or did Francis refuse more tech?

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Ahhh man, after all that time searching for that special grease and your telling me i wasted my time.

I am guessing that special alignment I got won't matter either. Crap.
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Jamie, so did NASA stop looking or did Francis refuse more tech?

I believe they just stopped at that point and parked the car for the weekend and started teching other cars. Jeff was there in Tech and said that the NASA crew did a 1st class job.
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Not in trouble when and if you come to mid Ohio. I am just in trouble in general LOL.

I just wanted the kid to beat you so we would have a really awesome couple of weeks on the forum, and Jim could sell lots of advertising :)

I think you will get your wish!!! It should be a good time for the next few days at least
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Sat Race 1 Results:

Class SM1 56 Nick Malatesta 12 27:34.306  1:41.801 12 78.8602 74 Gar Robinson 12 27:34.316 0.010 1:41.901 12 78.7823 12 BRUCE BYERLY 12 27:35.510 1.204 1:42.911 12 78.0094 18 ALEX BOLANOS 12 27:37.016 2.710 1:41.996 12 78.7095 24 Manny Platis 12 27:37.213 2.907 1:42.854 3 78.0526 97 Mitchell Taylor 12 27:40.478 6.172 1:44.025 3 77.1747 07 MARK GIBBONS 12 27:41.349 7.043 1:43.559 5 77.5218 70 STEVEN HICKMAN 12 27:41.846 7.540 1:42.549 12 78.2859 251 Derik Royal 12 27:41.915 7.609 1:43.342 3 77.68410 061 JIM PLATIS 12 27:44.124 9.818 1:43.548 5 77.52911 87 Team Rollan Racing 12 27:44.616 10.310 1:43.695 2 77.41912 31 SCOTT MCKAY 12 27:45.090 10.784 1:44.982 2 76.47013 14 MINCY TIM 12 27:47.196 12.890 1:46.161 6 75.62114 241 Orlande Sivacoe 12 27:53.805 19.499 1:47.424 2 74.73215 59 Timothy Allen 11 26:00.880 1 Lap 1:45.927 3 75.78816 17 Andrew von charbonneau 11 27:37.293 1:36.413 1:41.538 1 79.06417 061 JIM PLATIS 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -18 22 Fernando Seferlis 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -19 23 Ernie Jr Francis 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -20 26 Jeremy Klein 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -21 63 Scott Argow 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -22 88 Lindsey Jarrell 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -23 161 Ivan BeRossy 0 --:--:--.---  --:--:--.--- 0 -Class1 23 ERNIE FRANCIS JR 12 27:43.594  1:44.220 12 77.029

Francis Jr started last in a different car because the 1.6 (of youtube fame) was found to have a modified exhaust header in qual. Header was confiscated, car was locked in impound until they could fix it. Post qual/post race 1 tech included exhaust pipe diameter, weight, header inspections, whistler, restrictor plates, rear brake rotor size, etc.

Charb and I started last due to transponder issues in qual, he got caught by the overall leaders on a full course and went a lap down.


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Charb and I started last again (because we're idiots), post race tech included cam lobe measurements and "valve cover off" inspection, sway bar diameters, restrictor plates, weight.


Will post Sunday recap once mylaps catches its breath.

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They should have had the Francis team tear the head off, pull the cams, disassemble the gearbox and diff.
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They should have had the Francis team tear the head off, pull the cams, disassemble the gearbox and diff.

Next time!!! The chance of that car having just an exhaust issue is 0.0%. But tech had other cars to work on and probably felt that there was no need in looking furture as the car was DQed at that point.
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Next time!!! The chance of that car having just an exhaust issue is 0.0%. But tech had other cars to work on and probably felt that there was no need in looking furture as the car was DQed at that point.


Let Mike and I come down next time and play :king:
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Wow, seriously disappointed. Once they found the non-compliant exhaust they should have kept going. I'm sure the head was ported as well. If your going to blantantly cheat, why stop at just a polished exhaust manifold? Feel bad for the kid, not they way you want to start out your racing career. SR. should have known that there was going to be some serious scrutiny on that car.
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Great on NASA, to take the bull by horns on this one, nobody likes to have to pull sh%t apart for a regional meaninless race, but when there is this many accusations and this much drama repeatedly it requires actions! I appluad the efforts... Great job NASA!!!!

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They should have had the Francis team tear the head off, pull the cams, disassemble the gearbox and diff.


As much as I would have loved to see that after being told that I can't drive and don't know how to set up my car properly, I am glad that tech was not biased towards catching one particular (albeit wellknown) cheater. In the qualifying session where his car number was called to tech he was FOUR seconds off the pace, they teched on his car exactly what the teched on everyone elses. Also, NASA FL will not pick on them blatantly as they are the main event sponsor as well as the trophy sponsor.

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Let Mike and I come down next time and play :king:

You two might have just taken the car out back and blown it up.
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Let Mike and I come down next time and play :king:


Funny you say that, I haven't been tech inspected this much since the 2011 NASA Nats where you were on me like white on rice....
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by the way you bet on the wrong horsey lol


I just bet on the wrong Horsey's Ass LOLOLOLOLOL

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Funny you say that, I haven't been tech inspected this much since the 2011 NASA Nats where you were on me like white on rice....

And it was 100% every time :king:

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