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[pat slattery]

For the 2nd straight oil change, I have had no oil in my oil filter when I removed it. Not a drop. You can turn it over on a piece of paper and nothing comes out. The motor seems to be OK, oil, pressure is good, any ideas, and is this a sign of impending doom. Using redline 30.

[Glenn]

For the 2nd straight oil change, I have had no oil in my oil filter when I removed it. Not a drop. You can turn it over on a piece of paper and nothing comes out. The motor seems to be OK, oil, pressure is good, any ideas, and is this a sign of impending doom. Using redline 30.

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[FTodaro]

Cut the filter open the oil is trapped between the canister and the paper. I assume you have Oil pressure when running?

[Sphinx]

Does the filter weigh as much as it did when new? My experience with filters is that they tend to not have a whole lot of running liquid just because of the angle of the filter into the car.

[Alberto]

Source or brand of filter?

[Randy Thieme]

"Not a drop" of oil seems odd. The filter mounts horizontally so if the car sits overnight before the oil is changed most of the oil will have drained out but there should be some left inside.

[Chris Adams]

"Not a drop" of oil seems odd. The filter mounts horizontally so if the car sits overnight before the oil is changed most of the oil will have drained out but there should be some left inside.

There should be about half a filter full of oil unless you're storing your car with the driver's side door on the floor

This isn't normal, Pat!

When you remove the oil filter, do you get a few dropelets of oil from the filter area on the engine block? If no oil is reaching the filter at all, then I'd lean towards dropping the pan and making sure you still have an oil pickup...

[Jim Drago]

Pat
Hopefully your not using a fram or some other piece shit filter?? Many don't have check valves and it allows the oil to run back in the engine every time. That means every time you start, it takes several seconds to build oil pressure.. Stearns had a fram filter that literally would not pick up oil pressure for over 30 seconds .. This is when we first started and found out it was his $1.49 fram filter that ruined his $5500 engine

[SaulSpeedwell]

Normal if the filter anti-drainback valve leaks (which it almost always does) and you didn't take the filter off until several hours after the motor last ran (i.e. lots of time for the oil to drain back), and the last time the motor ran it was hot as balls (and thus the oil was very thin).

Start up, run a few minutes, or all the way until 195F if it makes you feel better, and then take filter off - I'll bet you several $4 trophies that the filter will happily oil down the RH motor mount upon removal, and then you will feel all warm and fuzzy.

[fishguyaz]

no idea what the problem is, but i would treat the car like a motor in my FF until you find the issue. might just be a POS filter. its only like $10 for a wix or other quality brand.

with the FF, i remove the plugs, and crank the motor for a few seconds. pause, and repeat until i see (high) oil pressure is showing on the gauges on the car.
only then do i reinstall the spark plugs and run the motor for the day.
I wouldnt do anything if that filter isnt full of oil after cranking the motor a few times.
let us know what the solution was.

[Dave Lewis]

Isn't there a bypass valve in the block?

[Randy Thieme]

There should be about half a filter full of oil unless you're storing your car with the driver's side door on the floor

You're right. Brain fade. Forgot I always have to put a paper towel down underneath to catch what drips out.

[Chris Adams]

You're right. Brain fade. Forgot I always have to put a paper towel down underneath to catch what drips out.

That's better than what I do. I seem to always forget to put the oil dyke under the car and have to kitty litter the garage floor... again...

[pat slattery]

I am now getting some oil. Maybe Sauls explanation was the real reason. I am using a Maza filter. Motor hadn't been started for a few weeks.
Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions.

[htron435]

Pat
Hopefully your not using a fram or some other piece crap filter?? Many don't have check valves and it allows the oil to run back in the engine every time. That means every time you start, it takes several seconds to build oil pressure.. Stearns had a fram filter that literally would not pick up oil pressure for over 30 seconds .. This is when we first started and found out it was his $1.49 fram filter that ruined his $5500 engine

What brands of filters do you recommend?

[wheel]

Speaking of no oil in the filter and oil-dry on the floor, I had the same problem at one point. The cause was that the oil filter was sitting on the bench, since I had forgotten to install it on the new engine. No damage as the flood of oil was pretty obvious.
wheel

[davew]

Napa gold line is made by WIX and we have never had an issue

Dave

[William Bonsell]

Agree with DW on the Napa gold. Ridiculously priced if you buy them by the 12 pack!