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[Jim Drago]

After the success of Rogers first webinar, I have asked Roger if he would do another for the site. I would like to open this up for some ideas as to what you would like covered or any suggestions. I am going to post a link to the first webinar below. Please watch. I want to start there and do very little review if possible and try to move forward.

We have not narrowed down a date yet, likely a Tuesday or Wednesday 8-10 Central time.

Any suggestions are appreciated.



Here is a direct link:

[rscottp]

Link didn't post, at least to my iPad and Android phone.

[rscottp]

Ignore that. Tap "view on Vimeo".

[pat slattery]

How about we break down your data Jim and Todd Buras data to see where we are all slow.

[Cnj]

1. Playing with math channels.
2. Using latitudinal and longtitudinal G to interpret good and bad driving (perhaps in conjunction with math channels).
3. Rules of thumb for reading slopes of brake pressure, G, etc
4. Advanced use of data to generate friction circles - and use this info meaningfully.
5. Recomended protocols/procedures for gathering data and implementing learning on test days and race days (forms appreciated)
6. Using data to inform suspension setup.
7. Sensors. Which ones are available and what priority for implementation.
8. Using data to optimize engine tuning and longevity (air fuel ratios, temps/pressure warnings, etc)

Cnj

[Jamz14]

I like Cnj's list. Especially 1, 2, 5, & 6.

[Jim Drago]

How about we break down your data Jim and Todd Buras data to see where we are all slow.

Pat
Hard to tell when your being serious or your sarcastic self There were 5-6 others faster than me in that race, including Todd. I don't have my data from the race, really wish I did, we did not put cards back in the traqdash and didn't realize it until on the pace lap, thankfully the shift lights still work with no card. On my data, really no need to even look at the data, you can see all you need on mylaps.com. I am not any "faster" than six or seven others there. What has helped me do well at that track is familiarity. I probably have more laps at that track than p2-5 combined. I don't know if that helps in ultimate lap time much, but it definitely helps to string 13 together, at least it does for me. .

[Roger Caddell]

Keep up the great feedback, it will help me target what everybody really wants.

Here is a link to all of the full seminars (Dates, Locations, Types) that are currently scheduled, several more are tentative and will be added soon. It is going to be a busy winter and I hope that if I am in your area that you come and spend a day learning how to use data acquisition to make the most of your racing program!

http://www.aim-sport...st_seminars.htm

[pat slattery]

Pat
Hard to tell when your being serious or your sarcastic self There were 5-6 others faster than me in that race, including Todd. I don't have my data from the race, really wish I did, we did not put cards back in the traqdash and didn't realize it until on the pace lap, thankfully the shift lights still work with no card. On my data, really no need to even look at the data, you can see all you need on mylaps.com. I am not any "faster" than six or seven others there. What has helped me do well at that track is familiarity. I probably have more laps at that track than p2-5 combined. I don't know if that helps in ultimate lap time much, but it definitely helps to string 13 together, at least it does for me. .

I was being serious, but a little sarcastic, since I didn't think you would be willing to show that data

[Jim Drago]

I posted my data after 2009 when I finished second and shared with whomever asked for it? I have other data from the weekend that I would share, if it made any sense to do so.

[Jim Drago]

We are working on data webinar 2.0.. Probably in January. Please watch this and comment on anything else you want covered. Watching this or strong data will be required to attend

Jim

[Michael Colangelo]

1. Playing with math channels.
2. Using latitudinal and longtitudinal G to interpret good and bad driving (perhaps in conjunction with math channels).
3. Rules of thumb for reading slopes of brake pressure, G, etc
4. Advanced use of data to generate friction circles - and use this info meaningfully.
5. Recomended protocols/procedures for gathering data and implementing learning on test days and race days (forms appreciated)
6. Using data to inform suspension setup.
7. Sensors. Which ones are available and what priority for implementation.
8. Using data to optimize engine tuning and longevity (air fuel ratios, temps/pressure warnings, etc)

Cnj

 

This is a good list.  I'd like to learn more about #2 and especially #5. 

 

Also, I'm a one-man operation and don't have a lot of time to download data and learn from it.  I need a strategy for focusing on the basics and being able to apply what the data is telling me to my next time out on the track.

 

Thanks, Roger!

[Todd Green]

http://www.aim-sport...st_seminars.htm

That gives a 404 (That's a linky no worky for you Benchy). Closest I could find was: http://www.aim-sport...vents/index.htm

But most have already passed.

[Roger Caddell]

Hi Todd, yes the LearnFast seminar 'season' for 2013 has passed for the most part.  History has proved that our users are most interested in attending our seminars from January through April. This is certainly biased by the weather and start of the racing season in their area.  Typically the user would like their on-site training a month or 2 before their season starts.  Of course this is hard to time correctly for everybody but we try!

 

With that said, I will accommodate any local group at most any time if we can get 20-30 users together... if we can, I will be there!  Let me know if anybody would like to host an event in your area, it does not cost you anything but a little time.

 

I do have a karting related seminar in the Portland area on Nov 2nd and the 2014 schedule is filling up fast and when they mature beyond 'tentative", we will publish the dates.

[Roger Caddell]

Regarding the upcoming online data webinar, I want to build on what we discussed before and keep the topics focused on ways to use data to improve your program. The current working title for the session is:

 

"A Racers Data Acquisition Triangle: Using Data for Driver Development, Vehicle Development, and Vehicle Health"

 

The list created by Cnj above is good and certainly those topics are high on my list. Trying to do all 8 items in a 2hr session may not be possible if we want to go into any real detail but we will try while also giving you some ideas on the best ways to implement your data tools.

 

Please keep posting the topics you would like to see discussed and I will try to make sure we cover them.

[Todd Green]

No problem Roger. I just meant that there might be a better link with more up-to-date info. WRT to a webinar, I'd love to see more about the physical side of data acq. Being in computer science, the actual data side is intuitive to me, but there are so many tricks to "conditioning" your data and mounting sensors that is the hard part for a software geek. E.g.

1) What do you recommend for making sure your input voltage stays constant? (I found out the hard way that when your alternator starts to go bad, so do your sensor voltage traces, since most don't have a regulator and Vin determines Vout.) (E.g. Would you build a circuit that steps it up to 24V then regulates to 12V? etc.)

2) Part # for the bushing needed for the AIM steering angle sensor to mate with our steering shaft.

3) Pictures of how you mounted your shock POTs? What length did you get etc.? Surely there are a bunch of gotchas there.

Thanks! Really enjoyed the last webinar!!