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[FTodaro]

Reportedly, the Nationwide crash happened because Smith trying to keep the lead going to the checker, put a block on the fast approaching Brad Keslowski, it's tough to resist blocking at this point in a race, but at some point when the speed of the approaching car is so great, that you know your going to wreck?

I wonder in NASCAR is going to take a position on blocking?

[Bench Racer]

I don't remember the details, except that a few short years ago, NASCAR said, boys have at it. And as the stands are not very crowded most likely they will let the boys and Danica continue to play.

[Jim Drago]

The one thing I dislike in Nascar is that stupid "boys have at it". I don't think they have a grasp on their fan base? Maybe they do, who knows. I would like to think that most are interested in good racing, not the wrecking, retaliation etc. I guess that sells tickets, but it definitely turns just as many off. IMO, NASCAR should take a hard stance on all the BS and penalize. If I were running that show, no one who spun someone to win would ever retain the win, they would go to DFL.  Eventually the BS would stop. It has become common practice and acceptable. The BS that Carl Edwards pulled on Kesolowski a few years ago, he would have been sat down for months. 

Jim

[Bench Racer]

 The NASCAR dictatorship decides as they go what, have at it boys means relative to their pockets.

Changing lines happens frequently in SCCA racing. I may have seen it in Spec Miata races a time or two.

[DES4]

The biggest contributor to Earnhardt's death a few years back was the block he was trying to put on Sterling Marlin heading into 3. Marlin wasn't obligated to cut him any slack, and all those years of "intimidating" caught up to him.

 

Sir Sterling Moss had once said that the biggest contributor to the end of the "gentleman driver" era was the high level of safety in a modern race car; the incredibly small risk of injury tends to encourage last moment "all or nothing" moves like that.

[Bench Racer]

 

the incredibly small risk of injury tends to encourage last moment "all or nothing" moves like that.

Nuff ^ said.

[FTodaro]

The one thing I dislike in Nascar is that stupid "boys have at it". I don't think they have a grasp on their fan base? Maybe they do, who knows. I would like to think that most are interested in good racing, not the wrecking, retaliation etc. I guess that sells tickets, but it definitely turns just as many off. IMO, NASCAR should take a hard stance on all the BS and penalize. If I were running that show, no one who spun someone to win would ever retain the win, they would go to DFL. Eventually the BS would stop. It has become common practice and acceptable. The BS that Carl Edwards pulled on Kesolowski a few years ago, he would have been sat down for months.
Jim

With all the BS in NASCAR, it makes some in club racers think, that is how its done.

I can't believe car/team owners put up with all the wrecking

[Duane Polsley]

A spectators view.

 

 

  http://jalopnik.com/...ull-o-413242730

[suck fumes]

That's nothing short of a miracle no one was killed!

[LarryKing]

I wonder if Nationwide will cover the lawsuits.

[FTodaro]

I wonder if Nationwide will cover the lawsuits.

I am sure there is a boat load of indemnification clauses in all the sponsorship agreements but any liability issues will fall upon NASCAR and the track and there insurance coverage as they are in control of the facility. believe it or not, this is not a good tort case from the plaintiff point of view. When you go to a sporting event such as a base ball game, or auto racing a fan assumes the ordinary risk of the activity. So for example if your at the track and the stands collapse you can sue because that is NOT an ordinary risk of going to a race. However, when you go to a baseball game you assume the risk that someone could knock one out of the park and hit a spectator in the stands.

 

However, it is not quite as clear as to weather or not a wreck that put derbies into the stands is a know risk of attending such an event. I would assume that that NASACAR will step up to offer those fans help with Medical bills and wage Loss. I sure hope they do anyway.

[suck fumes]

I know this is a serious matter but I couldn't help but chuckle that this guy didn't manage to spill his beer as you can see it briefly while he is filming

[SaulSpeedwell]

I wonder if Nationwide will cover the lawsuits.

 

After 20+ years without a single claim, they "non-renewed" me the first time I even *inquired* about making a claim.  Understand, I didn't formally request they cover me under the provisions of my policy - I simply CALLED them to ask if a particular loss might be covered.

 

But, they have plenty of money to sponsor golf tournaments, NASCAR, and TV commercials.

 

Great insurance company .... until you need them.

 

Nationwide:  Not On Your Side. 

[Jim Drago]

After 20+ years without a single claim, they "non-renewed" me the first time I even *inquired* about making a claim.  Understand, I didn't formally request they cover me under the provisions of my policy - I simply CALLED them to ask if a particular loss might be covered.

 

But, they have plenty of money to sponsor golf tournaments, NASCAR, and TV commercials.

 

Great insurance company .... until you need them.

 

Nationwide:  Not On Your Side. 

But Dale Jr's family has been using them for decades

[MPR22]

After 20+ years without a single claim, they "non-renewed" me the first time I even *inquired* about making a claim.  Understand, I didn't formally request they cover me under the provisions of my policy - I simply CALLED them to ask if a particular loss might be covered.
 
But, they have plenty of money to sponsor golf tournaments, NASCAR, and TV commercials.
 
Great insurance company .... until you need them.
 
Nationwide:  Not On Your Side. 

Sounds like you need to report Nationwide to the state board of insurance and your state attorney general for deceptive trade practices.