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I’m in the process of converting my track car to SM. I got most of the work done and am down to doing the suspension and some odd & ends now. I had put Poly bushing in my control arms, so need to replace those. It was cheaper and easier to get a fairly clean/low mileage set of used arms than to buy new bushing and do the R&R on the current arms. Anyway, I got the front done yesterday, sort-of… It seems one of the upper control arm ball joints is different than the other. :angry:  When I tighten the castellation nut, it seats about 1/8” beyond the cotter pin hole. I don’t know if the threaded portion is longer or the seating cone is narrower, but I’m thinking another arm is needed. Did Mazda change the ball-joints in these over the years? The control arm “looks” correct, but obviously is not. 


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Sounds like you got an earlier arm and ball joint. 99's have thicker metal at the spindal top...requiring a longer slightly smaller diameter ball joint.

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You have a NA upper control arm....  Not 99, as Ron suggested.


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The upper ball joint stud on a NB control arm is longer than that of a NA.

 

If you try to use a NB arm with an NA spindle, the stud will be too long.

 

If you use a NA arm on an NB spindle the stud will be too short.

 

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The upper ball joint stud on a NB control arm is longer than that of a NA.

If you try to use a NB arm with an NA spindle, the stud will be too long.

If you use a NA arm on an NB spindle the stud will be too short.

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Okay now I'm concussed...? My car is a '99 and the stud is too long.

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NB Arm with an NA Steering Knuckle?


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You have an 01 up control arm. Not a NA control arm.

The taper on 99/00 is different than a 01-05.

Same goes for spindles

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You have an 01 up control arm. Not a NA control arm.

The taper on 99/00 is different than a 01-05.

Same goes for spindles


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What Jim said. I forgot about the 99-00 versus 01+ difference.

 

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