32 replies to this topic

[Jim Drago]

With all the current parity.. Figured it would be a pleasant distraction to see how we can integrate all cars for 2018. It's time to bring them in! How about we stew on this for awhile..
SM as of 1/1/18


1990-1993 Miata engine full IT Engine build, no other changes 2300 lbs No other changes
1994/1997 Miata engine 9.6-9.75:1 compression 2350 lbs no other changes
1999/2000 no changes other than no restrictor plate 2400 lbs
01/05 no changes other than no restrictor plate 2425 lbs
06/15 SM5 rules with say 38-42 mm restrictor, 2650 lbs

I'm sending in a letter to the SMAC any way.. so lets get a group opinion

[Mike Collins]

You're close.. That makes the 1.6 or '99 the favorite probably the 1.6...  Restrictor too small on NC cars....

[Tom Hampton]

Oh. Dear. God!

[Joe Cooley]

Why restrictor and weight bump on SM5?

[chris haldeman]

Let's give the 94-97 cars the 99 camshafts. Should help there top end

[Mike Collins]

Let's give the 94-97 cars the 99 camshafts. Should help there top end

 

It does, been there, done that. KILLS torque...

[Todd Lamb]

Based on our playtime at the NASA 8hrs running 99's with no restrictor against the NC I would say the NC is going to need a lot of slowing down (straight line).

[Bench Racer]

[Jim Drago]

Why restrictor and weight bump on SM5?

says the guy with the MX5 avitar

 

 

Isn't this a lot more fun than the other thread?

[Joe Cooley]

says the guy with the MX5 avitar

 

 

Isn't this a lot more fun than the other thread?

 

Honest question actually.  Is there a goal to get it closer to SM speeds?

 

I don't see the point of restricting and adding weight to a car 'just because'.  And I don't see the need to balance it out to what the SM cars are doing.  It's a separate class that's why I am confused by the changes.  I very well could be missing part of the story too.

[Jim Drago]

this is SM in 2018.. 

So all the cars will have to race together.. The Mx5 will need weight and restrictor in order to not be an overdog

[B(Kuch)Kucera45]

Now you done it Jim ! Lmao !!!!!

[Joe Cooley]

this is SM in 2018.. 

So all the cars will have to race together.. The Mx5 will need weight and restrictor in order to not be an overdog

 

Got it.  So how does the STR rule affect the NC?  

[Todd Lamb]

I want to upgrade my 99 suspension to NC. Should be about 4 parts for a total of $20.

[chris haldeman]

It does, been there, done that. KILLS torque...

The added compression too 9.75 should return some of the bottom end

[FTodaro]

 

Isn't this a lot more fun than the other thread?

Don't worry we will get back there sooner or later. But I like the change. It will take till at least 2018 to get a direction.

 

Novak better not sell yet.

[Todd Lamb]

SM isn't going away anytime soon. Just in case the lurkers don't understand the premise of the discussion.

[Caveman-kwebb99]

I think we should let all the stl Honda cars into sm in 2018 also with a 42mm rp and 2500lb.

[38bfast]

The new cup car is looking for a home as well. Should just get that one in all at once.

[Tom Sager]

25.4mm restrictor and 3250 pounds (without driver).  That will ensure that the roughly $20 million that existing competitors have invested in cars and spares is not made obsolete because of the next great idea.  

 

Those that have a woody about running the NC cars need not wait (or weight). T4 awaits you and you can have your equalization debates with folks that have Mustangs, Honda's and others.  In this age of political correctness and diversity, a mixed class of competitive cars is a better idea anyway. T4!