I am getting ready to buy transmission parts. My car is 99, but I do not know about trans. Number JM1NB3532Y01460650. How do I make sure I get the right parts? Are all NB trans parts interchangable, and I should buy the newest. For example M501-17-404D instead of M501-17-404C?
Trying to understand transmission part numbers on Mazda Site
#1
Posted 08-29-2018 09:18 PM
#2
Posted 08-30-2018 04:56 AM
You want to go to the part list on line that is for the year of the car and trans that your buying parts for to start with. Most of the common parts are interchangeable with a few exceptions on the NA and NA18 trans.
On the listing of later parts, you will automatically be directed to the latest part number the part number you listed above is actually for the 3-4 shift for and the current part ends in "D".
The system should automatically substitute the latest part number but try to pick the latest version. Often its price that changes not the part.
Frank
TnT Racing
SCCA Ohio Valley Region
#3
Posted 08-30-2018 05:43 AM
You want to go to the part list on line that is for the year of the car and trans that your buying parts for to start with. Most of the common parts are interchangeable with a few exceptions on the NA and NA18 trans.
On the listing of later parts, you will automatically be directed to the latest part number the part number you listed above is actually for the 3-4 shift for and the current part ends in "D".
The system should automatically substitute the latest part number but try to pick the latest version. Often its price that changes not the part.
Thanks! Just for clarity. When you say year of the transmission NB is critical instead of 1999 versus 2000, correct? If 1999 versus 2000 is important, how do I determine the year of the transmission I have?
#4
Posted 08-30-2018 06:59 AM
Thanks! Just for clarity. When you say year of the transmission NB is critical instead of 1999 versus 2000, correct? If 1999 versus 2000 is important, how do I determine the year of the transmission I have?
If it matters there is a VIN tag on the trans.
#5
Posted 08-30-2018 09:04 AM
There are basicly 3 transmissions in a Miata, NA1.6, NA1.8 and NB. There are some very minor differences inside an NB from year yo year. None of these differences effect the parts for rebuilding. I notice them because I see the insides of so many trans's. The cases and some of the shift mechanism are different between NA and NB
Syncros (except 1.6 second gear) are all the same. Syncro rings, shift forks, shift rods (again except 1.6 3rd-4th rod), seals gaskets and most of the small parts are all the same. Part numbers will all end up superceding to the latest version.
Dave
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#6
Posted 09-02-2018 02:44 PM
With the Mazda price cut on the transmissions, I now wonder whether rebuilding an old one is worthwhile or whether one should just get one from Mazda. With free shipping, it isn't bad. I remember Mike Collins saying that his recommendation was to buy new one and never have to worry about it (assuming one doesn't ruin it). Is that still the consensus?
#7
Posted 09-04-2018 08:31 AM
With the Mazda price cut on the transmissions, I now wonder whether rebuilding an old one is worthwhile or whether one should just get one from Mazda. With free shipping, it isn't bad. I remember Mike Collins saying that his recommendation was to buy new one and never have to worry about it (assuming one doesn't ruin it). Is that still the consensus?
Not in my biased opinion.
Street boxes are work hardened. The gears have gotten hot a million times, and cold a million times. All the gears worn smooth from many miles. The new boxes do not have the shaft saver sleeve installed.
I believe most of the trans guys have agreed, we will have a lot of pretty cases in a year or so to rebuild.
I do not think anyone has said "new is better than rebuilt"
Dave
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Building Championship winning cars since 1995
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Back to Back June Sprints Spec Miata 1-2 finishes 2016 and 2017
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#8
Posted 09-08-2018 12:47 PM
Not in my biased opinion.
Street boxes are work hardened. The gears have gotten hot a million times, and cold a million times. All the gears worn smooth from many miles. The new boxes do not have the shaft saver sleeve installed.
I believe most of the trans guys have agreed, we will have a lot of pretty cases in a year or so to rebuild.
I do not think anyone has said "new is better than rebuilt"
Dave
What is the "shaft saver sleeve"? I didn't see any reference to it in the GCR.
#9
Posted 09-08-2018 01:52 PM
You mean the Spline Spacer to help save the counter shaft from twisting? This is the part number.
0000-02-5722-SP 51.00
Frank
TnT Racing
SCCA Ohio Valley Region
#10
Posted 09-09-2018 11:16 AM
You mean the Spline Spacer to help save the counter shaft from twisting? This is the part number.
0000-02-5722-SP 51.00
Got it, thank you.
#11
Posted 09-10-2018 08:44 AM
I designed the dam thing, I will call it what I want !!!!!!!!
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Building Championship winning cars since 1995
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6 Time Northern Conference Champion Car Builder
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#12
Posted 09-10-2018 09:32 AM
#13
Posted 09-11-2018 05:00 PM
I designed the dam thing, I will call it what I want !!!!!!!!
Like Armando, I died laughing when I saw this! Easy Francis!
Ok, so what does it do (something more explanatory than it prevents the countershaft from twisting)? Where does it get installed?
#14
Posted 09-11-2018 05:42 PM
Ok, so what does it do (something more explanatory than it prevents the countershaft from twisting)? Where does it get installed?
Hope this helps make sense. Words from the wise guy likely would be it's BIGGER and HARD.
http://mazdaracers.c...splined +spacer
#15
Posted 09-11-2018 11:17 PM
Hope this helps make sense. Words from the wise guy likely would be it's BIGGER and HARD.
Thank you.
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