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This weekend at Hallett, I got caught up in a shoving match between Keegan Doyle (#26) and Erik Nystrom (#76). Here's the video:

 


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Thought you were going to clear the tires  :pessimist:


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No worries Jim, I’m sure their parents will pay to fix their cars, but you really shouldn’t crowd them like that where the track is only 50ft wide.
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Wow.. 

 

Too much side to side movement on the front straight, and then 26 just turns into 76... WTH.

 

Did the Stewards take action?


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Wow.. 

 

Too much side to side movement on the front straight, and then 26 just turns into 76... WTH.

 

Did the Stewards take action?

They said they were going to after they looked at the in-car video from both of them.


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Looks like the inside car got the dreaded side draft suck as he drifted back, then touched tires then, well you know the rest.  Lessons are don't stay 1 inch away from you competitor when 1) you have the inside of the next turn and 2) you are near front to rear wheel synchronization.  That appears to create the biggest side draft for whatever reason and there is no room for the sudden pull.


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Going frame by frame it almost looks as though the red car dropped the RR tire off the track first. At best 26 squeezed him way too tight under the circumstances.
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 At best 26 squeezed him way too tight under the circumstances.

That is my bet the 26 did not like that he was not the faster car so he ran him into the dirt. With a track that wide there is no reason for it. If i were the chief there would be a two race DQ, as it looked like he had a rookie strip and that is not the way to start racing.
 


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Stay away from that duo. Hope your car is ok.


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Coming off the previous turn the #76 red car driver showed attitude. As in I need the whole track width moving left (intimidation) which made no sense because the next turn was a left.


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Classic case of reaching the limits of the equipment between the ears. And for some that seems to be very easy
Sorry about your luck. A learning experience ... hanging back and waiting for the inevitable might work if there is a next time. You didn’t have a lot of time to react in the spin and let’s face it the track layout would not expect a car to come off there unless it was punted. Best you can do is have an ultra fast reaction time of hitting the brakes and clutch and hang on. Even in F1 you see some of them still having the tires move when they go in reverse after a spin.. What do I know though, maybe that’s meant to happen as part of sone regenerative braking system...

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I don't know any of these cars in the clip. Obviously the camera car took the worst of it. Having raced that track many times, I have a different opinion of what happened. I agree ( wow did I actually type that) with Bench. The red 76 car tried to squeeze the 26 car in hopes to get him to lift and not make the pass.  The 26 car made the corner ( you typically need all the track at exit)  26 held it and left room and did not get into red 76 at track out.. The red 76 had a car width at exit, not sure who moved there or just likely both thought they were going "straight" and probably were, but they were on intersecting courses. They touched and the rest is history.  Sucks for camera car unfortunately. 


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Moral of the story: Last year’s already well used tires won’t be good enough by Sunday afternoon to stay ahead of the kill zone.
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Moral of the story: Last year’s already well used tires won’t be good enough by Sunday afternoon to stay ahead of the kill zone.

 

Unfortunately, the 1.8's of these two pulled me on the start of the race. I out-qualified both of them. That was the case most of the weekend. 



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Unfortunately, the 1.8's of these two pulled me on the start of the race. I out-qualified both of them. That was the case most of the weekend.


Yeah, the 1.6 isn’t known for great starts. With a slightly higher redline it can do OK if the pace speed is just right but usually gets eaten. From there on its a mix of strengths and weaknesses but close overall so stick with it, if the numbskulls don’t take you out.
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Hallet is like that- margin of the track wanders around. Easy to get pinched.

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red 76 car looks like jordan smart's old car.

 

amazing 2 cars can crash in a straight line......

 

here's an example of a full race back and forth without being a dick to each other......

 

 

https://youtu.be/0PRke_Ka1J8


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red 76 car looks like jordan smart's old car.

 

 

same color, same year, same number, different car :)


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