steering gear, cap or hose
#1
Posted 05-07-2011 03:43 PM
If I do use a hose, do I need to be concerned about the pressure? And can I just use standard hose clamps to keep them on. My fear is either the line blowing or the connection coming loose while on track.
I would appreciate any positive feedback. Thx.
Rob
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#2
Posted 05-07-2011 03:57 PM
I would go with the plugs, overall they are a cleaner installation, and then you dont have to worry about anything leaking or comming loose later. Plus if you ever wanted to put the PS back on your car, you would have the orginal uncut hoses to use. There is enough fluid left in the rack for lubrication when everything is put together, and you should have no issues at all.
Greg
#3
Posted 05-07-2011 04:19 PM
Where can I purchase the plugs from, or is this something I need to fab?
Rob
#4
Posted 05-07-2011 04:36 PM
Advanced Autosports makes them. You can copy/paste the url below.
http://www.advanced-...6ff585a4ae1b7e8
Greg
#5
Posted 05-07-2011 05:18 PM
+1 on the plugs. I took out the hoses turned it left to right about two times to get out excess fluid and then plugged them. You just need to leave enough fluid in their to keep it lubricated and you are good to go. Now issues at all by capping the lines.Rob,
Advanced Autosports makes them. You can copy/paste the url below.
http://www.advanced-...6ff585a4ae1b7e8
Greg
Frank
TnT Racing
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#6
Posted 05-07-2011 06:08 PM
#7
Posted 05-07-2011 06:58 PM
I use Dave's plugs and I still have the small lines attached. The plugs are slick and when I first did it, it was a breeze. My rack is pretty smooth but some people have complained of excessive steering effort with just the drain and plug method. Many people just cut and crimp the small lines to keep gunk out. One drawback I've found to keeping the small lines is cleaning, like if you happen to have an oil mess or scatter a 100+ MPH bird in the engine bay.
I plan on doing the Planet Miata method soon as I also need to replace my front subframe due to non-birdstrike related incidents. I figure it's "While I'm in there, spend the little extra time to do it right and then don't think about it again." sort of jobs.
#8
Posted 05-07-2011 07:51 PM
#9
Posted 05-07-2011 09:54 PM
#10
Posted 05-07-2011 10:14 PM
-tch
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#11
Posted 05-07-2011 10:28 PM
The rack modification is in addition to the plugs and is to ease the steering input once the PS pump is disconnected. I may give it a go later, got too much to do just to get the car to the point where I can get it a book. When we removed the PS from the stock car it was a bit of a handful on slower speeds but nothing that was too bad. If I can do that for a couple of seasons with what is basically a 3500 lb brick I think I'll be OK in the sports car.
#12
Posted 05-07-2011 10:48 PM
-tch
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#13
Posted 05-08-2011 06:51 AM
-Chris
#14
Posted 05-08-2011 12:46 PM
Brimtek Motorsports
Team Four Racing
#15
Posted 05-09-2011 07:52 AM
I have seen 3 steering racks go bad since I got into SM back in 2000. All 3 have had the flyin' Miata depower method. May be a coincedence, but 3 out of 3 seems unlikely.
For my plugs I recommend turning the steering wheel lock to lock several times prior to installing the plugs. Do this quickly and preferably with the front wheels off the ground.
Dave
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#16
Posted 05-09-2011 08:31 AM
I may have a biased opinion, BUT:
I have seen 3 steering racks go bad since I got into SM back in 2000. All 3 have had the flyin' Miata depower method. May be a coincedence, but 3 out of 3 seems unlikely.
For my plugs I recommend turning the steering wheel lock to lock several times prior to installing the plugs. Do this quickly and preferably with the front wheels off the ground.
Dave
I used Dave's plugs on my car as well. No complaints. I had one of the very rare odd balls that needed two of the same sized plugs.
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