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[Jim Drago]

Here is who is eligible for the runoffs in SM as of right now by points, you still need you four races, 2 in division etc...


1 SM McSpadden, Aaron 098 293650 148 8 9 10 12 10 12 10 12 10 12 10 12 10 9 10 1356 1357 1366 1367 1470 1534 1535 1469-6/10
2 SM Vance, Tyler 019 415755 138 10 7 10 9 8 12 10 12 10 9 10 12 10 9 10 1344 1384 1385 1461 1462 1585 1586 1345-5/10,1353
3 SM Steyn, Danny 003 376487 135 13 9 10 12 10 9 10 12 10 7 10 7 10 9 10 1347 1348 1349 1350 1389 1452 1544 1390-1/10,1386
4 SM Van Vurst, Henry 011 223910 132 11 9 10 12 10 9 10 12 7 5 10 12 10 6 10 1348 1349 1350 1368 1390 1452 1544 1389-0/0,13471
5 SM Valafar, Sammy 072 217190 131 7 9 10 7 10 12 10 7 7 9 9 9 10 12 10 1344 1345 1353 1384 1385 1461 1462
6 SM Reynolds, Matthew 049 220134 128 8 7 10 7 10 12 6 7 10 9 10 12 10 9 9 1366 1367 1432 1469 1534 1535 1593 1470-7/10,
7 SM Charbonneau,Andrew 011 336361 122 7 12 10 4 10 6 10 7 10 2 10 9 10 12 10 1347 1348 1349 1350 1389 1452 1521
8 SM Drago, Jim 066 333432 117 8 6 10 5 10 2 10 9 5 6 10 12 10 12 10 1347 1348 1390 1432 1521 1544 1593 1366-0/0,
9 SM Clements, Blake 032 335344 115 6 9 10 9 10 9 10 12 10 12 10 4 10 1366 1367 1389 1390 1469 1544
10 SM Burdzy, Voytek 082 407876 112 9 3 10 7 10 4 10 6 10 7 10 9 10 6 10 1348 1349 1350 1519 1505 1506 1597 1544-0/0,1347-
11 SM Berry, Craig 041 284668 110 7 4 10 7 10 5 10 4 10 9 10 4 8 9 10 1347 1348 1366 1367 1469 1470 1535
12 SM Bednarz, David 010 342032 106 7 1 6 5 10 4 10 5 10 6 10 12 10 7 10 1519 1520 1505 1506 1500 1501 1544
12 SM Franklin, Mark 008 330299 106 6 6 10 9 10 1 10 12 7 9 10 12 10 1344 1345 1367 1557 1585 1586
14 SM Haldeman, Chistopher 041 412747 105 10 5 10 2 10 9 10 4 9 5 9 7 10 7 8 1357 1366 1406 1469 1470 1534 1593 1356-0/0,1535-
15 SM Schultz, Matt 096 352360 97 7 6 10 6 10 7 6 6 6 1 0 9 8 12 10 1415 1416 1489 1445 1446 1607 1608
16 SM Anderson III, Bruce 007 399633 96 9 2 10 0 0 4 9 9 10 9 10 6 10 7 10 1348 1389 1519 1520 1505 1506 1597 1390-0/0,1347-
16 SM Ghidinelli, Brian 019 352377 96 7 5 5 6 7 12 10 9 10 5 10 7 10 0 0 1384 1385 1415 1416 1461 1462 1544
18 SM Bolanos, Alex 011 337840_3 92 7 5 10 4 10 6 10 4 10 7 10 0 0 6 10 1347 1349 1350 1389 1390 1451 1452
19 SM Heitman, Jess 096 169836 87 5 12 10 5 10 3 10 9 8 12 8 1344 1415 1416 1445 1446
20 SM Leverone, Nick 022 200602 85 6 0 0 6 10 5 10 4 10 12 6 12 10 1347 1348 1451 1452 1463 1559
20 SM Slattery, Shawn 070 332919 85 4 9 10 12 10 12 10 12 10 1519 1520 1505 1506
22 SM Cummings, Phil 109 351313 80 8 4 10 4 10 4 4 3 4 7 5 9 5 3 8 1344 1345 1384 1385 1557 1558 1586 1585-1/6,
22 SM Manning, Harry 020 181670 80 7 0 0 4 9 5 10 7 10 9 10 6 10 0 0 1519 1520 1505 1506 1500 1501 1544
22 SM Rawlins, Jason 096 411054 80 7 7 10 4 10 4 3 4 4 4 3 7 7 6 7 1415 1416 1489 1445 1446 1607 1608
25 SM Brown, Cliff 003 356011 78 5 6 4 12 10 9 10 2 10 5 10 1368 1389 1451 1452 1521
26 SM Sandlin, Patrick 083 335970 77 10 3 10 0 0 1 10 1 10 5 10 4 10 3 10 1347 1348 1349 1350 1389 1390 1521 1367-0/0,1366-
26 SM Westmorland, Grant 019 349426 77 6 6 6 4 5 1 10 4 10 5 10 6 10 1384 1385 1461 1462 1585 1586
28 SM Lee, Clement 019 316101 76 5 3 4 12 9 7 8 7 10 6 10 1353 1384 1385 1461 1462
29 SM Bickham, Luke 041 342683 74 8 3 10 0 0 4 10 2 7 6 10 1 10 1 10 1366 1367 1406 1469 1470 1534 1535 1356-0/0,
30 SM Sutherland, Ken 096 283190 69 5 12 10 12 8 0 0 5 4 9 9 1416 1489 1445 1446 1608
31 SM Sparks, Nathan 012 395787 68 6 5 10 4 10 6 10 0 0 1 10 2 10 1356 1357 1389 1451 1452 1521
32 SM Tucker, Jamie 083 375349 66 4 7 10 7 10 3 10 9 10 1347 1451 1452 1521
33 SM Wilson, Bruce 096 283191 64 5 9 10 5 10 5 4 12 9 0 0 1415 1416 1489 1607 1608
34 SM York, James 009 335180 60 8 4 10 3 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 10 4 10 1356 1357 1366 1367 1469 1470 1535 1534-0/0
35 SM Collings, Bill 098 386930 58 9 0 0 0 0 12 10 1 6 2 6 2 6 4 9 1356 1366 1406 1469 1470 1500 1501 1534-0/0,1367-
35 SM Brown,Tom 020 404862 58 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 8 6 10 4 10 7 10 1347 1348 1349 1519 1520 1506 1544 1505-0/0,
37 SM Fowler, Tom 003 89571 57 6 0 0 5 10 7 10 3 7 5 10 0 0 1451 1452 1521 1500 1501 1544
37 SM Burgoon, Rob 019 402691 57 5 0 0 12 10 4 5 4 10 2 10 1344 1345 1353 1461 1462
39 SM Gorriaran, Steven 022 331897 54 4 12 10 0 0 6 10 6 10 1451 1452 1528 1559
40 SM Powers, Steven 008 212429 50 4 9 6 12 6 0 0 7 10 1557 1558 1585 1586
41 SM Collins, Michael 055 316827 47 4 7 10 0 0 1 10 9 10 1528 1559 1544 1551
42 SM Gerber, Jarret 020 389413 46 4 12 10 2 7 12 3 0 0 1519 1520 1563 1544
42 SM Linse, Robert 027 391813 46 3 9 7 7 7 9 7 1489 1445 1446
44 SM Coello, Anthony 020 320656 44 3 5 10 7 10 2 10 1519 1520 1544
45 SM Sager, Tom 007 128908 42 4 7 10 3 8 0 0 5 9 1519 1520 1544 1597
45 SM Phillips, John 032 102149 42 3 6 10 5 10 5 6 1366 1367 1593
47 SM Pintaric, David 080 329254 41 6 0 0 0 0 4 10 1 5 2 7 5 7 1347 1348 1528 1500 1501 1551
47 SM Busk, Dean 002 269682 41 4 5 10 6 10 0 0 1 9 1344 1345 1461 1462
47 SM Ott, Steve 032 270399 41 2 12 10 9 10 1356 1357
50 SM Verges, Keith 041 213125 39 4 1 10 0 0 5 10 3 10 1366 1367 1534 1535
50 SM Zabinski, Ed 027 151991 39 4 12 9 7 6 0 0 2 3 1445 1446 1607 1608
52 SM Agha, Bill 098 385140 38 6 0 0 0 0 5 10 1 5 0 0 7 10 1366 1367 1469 1470 1534 1535
52 SM Weaver, Tim 019 285957 38 3 6 7 2 10 3 10 1353 1461 1462
54 SM Kraft, Tom 099 67038 37 4 12 3 7 1 12 2 0 0 1476 1563 1547 1544
Page 13National Points Championship 1. Items in blue note requirement met in that category for Runoffs eligibility
2011 Points through 7-5 Best 2010 class top 1/2 points total 2. Top 1/2 2011 Points 3. All drivers must have a minimum of 2 in Division starts and 4 finishes
Super Sweep Race Winner License 7 Points Races Races entered by
Rank Class Driver Name Region # Total Counted Base Bonus Base Bonus Base Bonus Base Bonus Base Bonus Base Bonus Base Bonus Sanction #
Race 1 Race 2 Race 3 Race 4 Race 5 Race 6 Race 7
55 SM Scheuing, John 010 350344 36 2 7 10 9 10 1500 1501
56 SM Campbell, Charlie 065 285427 34 3 2 10 0 0 12 10 1559 1544 1551
56 SM Rushing, Andrew 098 355308 34 2 7 10 7 10 1356 1357
58 SM Janassen, Craig 041 361585 33 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 8 3 7 2 10 0 0 1366 1367 1406 1469 1470 1534 1535
59 SM Corley, Gale 032 366580 32 4 0 0 6 10 6 10 0 0 1366 1367 1534 1535
59 SM Hingston, William 008 429588 32 4 6 4 7 4 3 8 0 0 1557 1558 1585 1586
59 SM Gatrell, Spence 096 367993 32 3 4 10 1 8 4 5 1415 1416 1608
62 SM Thibaut, Don 019 317723 31 2 6 10 5 10 1461 1462
62 SM Tolley, Bill 008 324050 31 2 6 10 5 10 1585 1586
64 SM Blanchard, Cliff 083 397166 30 6 5 10 5 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1349 1350 1389 1390 1451 1452
64 SM Gabriel, Brett 041 406979 30 4 0 0 0 0 7 10 3 10 1366 1367 1406 1534
64 SM Pombo, Mark 003 337424 30 2 1 10 9 10 1389 1390
67 SM Pombo, Mathew 003 322247 29 2 3 10 6 10 1389 1390
68 SM Farbman, Jon 026 361848 28 3 0 0 9 5 4 10 1347 1463 1559
68 SM Tsiounis, Yiannis 023 373918 28 2 6 3 9 10 1463 1559
70 SM Dasilva, Manual 026 361856 27 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 0 0 5 10 1347 1348 1389 1390 1451 1452 1559
70 SM Jones, Eric 096 376882 27 2 6 6 7 8 1607 1608
72 SM Ross, Michael 032 405680 26 7 2 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 10 0 0 1356 1357 1366 1367 1470 1534 1535
72 SM Halpin, Mike 002 290773 26 2 3 10 3 10 1344 1461
72 SM Loher, Darren 008 269859 26 2 4 9 4 9 1585 1586
72 SM Udell, Alex 032 379209 26 2 4 10 2 10 1366 1367
76 SM Colledge, Dave 003 353788 25 5 0 0 4 10 1 10 0 0 0 0 1389 1390 1451 1452 1521
76 SM Naon Jr, Albert 011 369086 25 5 0 0 2 10 3 10 0 0 0 0 1348 1349 1350 1389 1390
76 SM Vielmas, Caesar 032 388089 25 2 3 10 2 10 1356 1357
79 SM Pitt, Josh 002 372477 24 4 1 10 3 10 0 0 0 0 1344 1345 1366 1367
80 SM Stopka, Adam 004 407877 23 5 0 0 0 0 4 10 1 8 0 0 1519 1520 1505 1506 1544
80 SM Mathews, Chuck 019 353104 23 3 0 0 2 10 5 6 1344 1345 1353
82 SM Carter, Kent 032 277344 22 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 10 0 0 0 0 3 4 1357 1366 1367 1406 1534 1535 1593
82 SM Kachadurian, John 007 384519 22 3 0 0 0 0 12 10 1347 1348 1597
82 SM McGee, Gavin 002 396550 22 2 2 10 1 9 1344 1345
82 SM Olson, Alan 042 347704 22 1 12 10 1528
82 SM Ruggerio, David 070 366152 22 1 12 10




here are 33 drivers not eligible right now that would have been eligible last year...

87 SM Poland, Adam 041 421027 21 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 10 0 0 2 3 1357 1366 1367 1406 1534 1593
87 SM Cahall, Ted 042 386084 21 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 4 6 1347 1348 1528 1559 1551
90 SM Hickman , Steve 083 187084-1 20 5 2 10 5 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1349 1368 1390 1451 1452
90 SM Bender, Daniel 007 419155 20 4 2 7 0 0 0 0 2 9 1519 1520 1505 1506
103 SM Cummings, Randy 050 398134 16 6 0 0 0 0 2 0 5 2 0 0 1 6 1344 1345 1557 1558 1585 1586
112 SM Kaplan, Aaron 007 405530 13 4 0 0 1 6 0 0 1 5 1519 1520 1544 1597
122 SM Peterson, John 063 122072 12 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 8 0 0 1347 1349 1350 1451 1452 1500 1501
122 SM Holloway, Steven 098 340701 12 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 1366 1367 1534 1535
122 SM LaBounty, Jeff 083 290066 12 4 0 0 7 5 0 0 0 0 1347 1368 1390 1451
122 SM Rollan, Selin 011 177256_4 12 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 1347 1348 1349 1350
170 SM Anderson, Bruce 007 403471 2 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1349 1350 1368 1389 1390 1519 1520-0/0,1506-
SM Hickman Jr, Steve 083 187084-4 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1349 1350 1389 1534 1535
SM Shoemaker, Dale 019 357876 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1344 1345 1353 1384 1385 1461 1462
SM Jones, Camden 041 347258 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1366 1367 1469 1470 1534 1535
SM Serrano, Carlos 011 425823 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1349 1350 1389 1390
SM Lemmon, Pax 083 385260 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1451 1452 1544
SM Lettieri, John 022 403607 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1349 1350 1389
SM Mason, Chris 083 311663 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1500 1501 1544
SM Mooney, Richard 020 329485 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1519 1520 1505 1506 1544
SM Philibert, Raymond 011 385513 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1348 1349 1350 1389 1390
SM Rossini, Michael 042 345785 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1389 1451 1452 1559
SM Watson, Eva 041 367959 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1366 1367 1406 1534 1535
SM Briley, Marc 098 68125 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1356 1357 1366 1367
SM Goldfarb, Marc 041 305947 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1366 1367 1534 1535
SM Gregg, Whitfield 023 360035 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1451 1452 1559
SM Hammitte, Ann Lamport 022 344447 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1451 1452
SM Holbrook, Jeffrey 032 303501_1 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1366 1367 1534 1535
SM McSpadden, Sam 098 68125 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1366 1367 1469 1470
SM Miles, Mark 002 383963 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1344 1345 1585 1586
SM Mills, Amy 032 360169 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1451 1452 1559
SM Murphy, Holly 032 391139 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1366 1367 1534 1535
SM Seuss, C David 022 170885 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1347 1348 1349 1350
SM Toppe, Ardee 032 380897 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[fishguyaz]

I dont know what all those #s mean after the persons name.


I cannot beleive that i am quailfied for the runoffs having only raced 2 national events ( 4 races total)this year so far.
I finished 9th, and 10th out of 20 cars in phx, and was also a mid pack guy in texas finishing 23 and 24 out of 40 cars.

my qualifications of making the runoffs with this level of particiaption, and midpack performance diminishes those who have achieved, and participated much more than i have this season.
way too easy to qualify for the runoffs IMO.



I comment only because i think they are making it WAY to easy to qualify for the big show; an invitiation to the runoffs,should be earned, not just given out for showing up to a few events.

sorry if this is a hijack.

[davew]

Currently you are not qualified. You must finish 4 National races AND have the required number of points. In this case 22. What Jim has so kindly posted, is only the points standings. It does show the number of National races, but it does not sort by number of races.

Dave

[dmathias]

i think they are making it WAY to easy to qualify for the big show

They also serve who fill the field.

[wheel]

Here are all of the national points. One of the ways to qualify (everyone has to have 4 national finishes) is to have enough points, this year, to have finished in the top half of the national drivers last season or this season. Last season the mid point was 22 points. So, if you finish 4 and earn 22 points, you will be invited. It may seem easy to qualify, but look at the list of racers who don't qualify. If you qualify, you should consider entering, as it is a great event.

wheel
http://cms.scca.com/...depts-final.pdf - last year

http://www.scca.com/...points-0705.pdf - this year

Last year, of course, you just had to finish 4 events. There were no points requirements.

[Mike Collins]

Jim & Wheel, you both know I stood up at the National Convention and cried foul when this BS points system was announced. This points system keeps the two classes with highest car counts at a disadvantage.

Here is the break down of how many cars have completed 4 national races and would have been eligible last year and are not this year:

SM - 35
SRF - 24
T2 - 6
T3 - 4
T1 - 3
SSC - 2
FP - 2
FE - 1
F500 - 1

I am glad that the CRB and BoD in all of their infinite wisdom instituted a system that only effect 9 of the 25 classes. The data set they used to determine the points was skewed and I explained that to anyone who would listen, but since basic high school math is not a requirement to be on the BoD, we are led by a bunch of self serving ignoramuses.

[wheel]

M.H.
The BoD is an elected body. The Runoffs requirements that they enacted were a result of their constituents calling and telling them that they wanted the Runoffs to be more like the old days. That is, fishguyaz's view of only the best of the best should be invited. So, they are not self serving. They are serving their constituents.
Like all elected bodies, they do not always vote the way that we, as individuals, would like them to vote. The only way to change their votes is to let your elected representative know that you are not happy with the way they voted.
wheel

[Mike Collins]

Here is a list of how many competitors in each class that have raced a national and failed to earn any points:

SM - 139
SRF - 86
FC - 4
STU - 3
GT1 - 2
FV - 2
T2 - 2
FA - 2
FF - 1
FM - 1
FP - 1

So of the 25 National Classes in 14 of them you just have to show up and you are guaranteed national points. In another 9 of the classes you may have bad luck if actually 10 or more cars showed up one time. But in two of the classes there are 225 competitors that did not earn points and will be left out of the data set that will be used for next year unless this crude system in use now is re-evaluated.

[Mike Collins]

M.H.
The BoD is an elected body. The Runoffs requirements that they enacted were a result of their constituents calling and telling them that they wanted the Runoffs to be more like the old days. That is, fishguyaz's view of only the best of the best should be invited. So, they are not self serving. They are serving their constituents.
Like all elected bodies, they do not always vote the way that we, as individuals, would like them to vote. The only way to change their votes is to let your elected representative know that you are not happy with the way they voted.
wheel

I understand what you are saying, but you too fail to see that is NOT what they did. They made it harder for exactly 2 (two) classes to get into the runoffs. For any of the other 23 classes the requirement remains virtually the same, show up for 4 national races and you get to go to the runoffs. So please explain to me how they made it harder????

[Jim Drago]

I understand what you are saying, but you too fail to see that is NOT what they did. They made it harder for exactly 2 (two) classes to get into the runoffs. For any of the other 23 classes the requirement remains virtually the same, show up for 4 national races and you get to go to the runoffs. So please explain to me how they made it harder????

Mike
I think we see it pretty clearly My take is that the BOD tried to appease everyone. They wanted to get back closer to the good old days of the best of the best, while still inviting a fair amount of people. I think that was accomplished, but some SM and SRF drivers paid the price, we will see a drastic decrease in our entries in Sm, I am hoping we have at least 35.

My opinion is we need to clearly define what the Runoffs is supposed to be from 2011 forward.

If it is the best of the best that's fine, but the best of the best is only invite the Top 30SM /SRF, 20 FV and top 10 of every other class. But is that financially viable?

Something in the middle, like we have now or some variation....

Or invite everyone like last year, I didn't really see a down side from last years process. Its not like the 100th place guy came in and won or anything? Your still the "best" if you win(whatever that means), but now you get to hang out with a lot more friends in the process and make a much more fun week. For what it is worth, I would much rather hang around with guys from p11-p63 than the guys from p1-10, although they may not want to hang out with me

[Weekend Warrior]

Mike can I qualify?
Seriously....
This is too much math for a financial guy...

[Mike Collins]

Mike can I qualify?
Seriously....
This is too much math for a financial guy...

Yes, you are points qualified now. You need to run (and finish in any place) 3 more national races. At least one of those three still needs to be in the NE Div.

[dstevens]

I comment only because i think they are making it WAY to easy to qualify for the big show; an invitiation to the runoffs,should be earned, not just given out for showing up to a few events.

That's Meat's point. Except in a couple of class just showing up is good enough. In the more competitive divisions guys that should be in won't make it. Guys like you and me help pay the freight so the fast guys can run. The club needs to serve all members, not just the fast ones.

Drago makes a good point as to the sustainability given the popular classes will see a drop in car counts. That cost is going to be passed to the racers. There aren't TV deals or big sponsorship or a front gate take so in club racing we pay our own freight. My understanding was the rule was instituted due to the carnage last year but the issue was at the pointy end of the grid, not the middle and back. And those same guys are fast and will likely qualify again.

If big car counts are an issue there are other ways to approach it. Cap the class, slower cars need to race into the show or something like a 107% of pole or failure to maintain speed, too slow during the race and you get posted.

[wheel]

"My understanding was the rule was instituted due to the carnage last year......"

Not true.

[dstevens]

What was the reason?

[fishguyaz]

so what do all those numbers after my name mean?

i see my scca member # in there, otherwise it looks like some secret code.

let me rephrase my intial question.
having only done 2 national races in division, and 2 national races out of division, with midpack(9/20, 10/19, 23/41, 22/40) finishes in all races and only 4 national points; WHY is my name on that list above?
what did I do with those results to somehow be even eligable to go to the runoffs?

[Mike Collins]

Josh it says you have 24 points. It takes 22 to go to the show with 4 national races. All that says is that you are in.

[Johnny D]

what did I do with those results to somehow be even eligable to go to the runoffs?

Answer...

having only done 2 national races in division, and 2 national races out of division,

[Bench Racer]

One of the ways to qualify (everyone has to have 4 national finishes) Last season the mid point was 22 points. So, if you finish 4 and earn 22 points, you will be invited.

wheel
http://www.scca.com/...points-0705.pdf - this year

Josh, you have finished 4 national races, correct. That's point 1.

You have 2 finishes where you collected points. Once being 1 point with 10 bonus points added & the second time being 3 points with 10 bonus point being added you now have a total of 24 points. That's point 2.

You have aquired both points 1 & 2 of what Wheel said above for an inventation to the Runoffs.

EDIT:

Mike & Johnny you guys are way to fast for me, that's why I run regionals.

[wheel]

Four national races, two done with either foot in the air. Two in your division. Divisional races do not require you holding a foot in the air. Points equal to, but not overlapping the total of half of the previous year's total, with a coat hanger and tin foil, but not with your foot in the air. OK, pretty simple so far. Now it gets complicated....... Oh, nevermind.

wheel