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Me too! ;)

AIM SmartyCam is probably the most full-featured, robust camera on the market. Nothing like pulling the video card and having the data already overlaid onto the video for quick coaching. It isn't cheap, but it's a damn good camera/data system.


And if they could automatically sync the video with the data in their analysis software they would catch up with "lesser" systems. I agree that the immediate overlay is a great feature (though not unique) and probably very high on your priority list as a coach, but for my purposes does not beat out integration with the data analysis software. That is quite possibly a reflection of my lesser experience and abilities to utilize them, but having to do everything for ourselves in a race weekend we need the quickest possible access to information that might help us adjust our driving and/or cars while also doing everything else required between sessions. We have found integrated video and data analysis to be an important feature at our current level.
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I suffered through 2 seasons of spontaneous powerdown problems with my GoPro 3. Finally replaced it with a pair of Mobius's (two cameras for less than the cost of the GoPro). The integration with my Traqmate is seamless - video and data automatically in sync and I never have to worry about turning on the cameras or charging batteries.


We experimented with Mobius late last season. Exceptional value for plenty adequate resolution in a light weight compact (minimal jitter) camera. If the video could be sent to the base unit and stored on the same card as the data for auto overlay and auto-sync it would be ideal.

One question, are you using only the prescribed brand data cards? We had some failure to record and were told that they may not be reliable even with other name brand cards like SanDisk.

Data has been a frustration forever, and I go back to the earliest days of "consumer"/club systems (G-Analyst anyone?). It is invariably a leapfrog game as new technologies are adopted, I get that, but I fail to understand why there is only one system which has nearly everything I expect these days and it suffers from terminally buggy and just plain clumsy software even after all these years.
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When trying to make the GoPro work, I bought SanDisk Extreme media (one is UHS-1 the other is UHS-3).  The GoPro didn't like my original generic class 10 card.  I'm using the Sandisks in the Mobius.  Probably overkill based on the Mobius docs (which say a class 4 card is enough), but they are working swimmingly at 1080p/30fps - no issues all season.


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To date in over 400 sessions with the Mobius cameras over the pat two yeas,  I have only had one failure when the USB cable came out the back on serious rumble strips at Road America

 

The Mobius is cheap (under $70), the HD video quality is good (not Hero Black quality but still good), The camera is robust, light, no vibration, easy to customize exposure and FOV to your liking. Use regular sandisk cards, synchs perfectly to Traqmate and immediate playback with synched data in Traqstudio.


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To date in over 400 sessions with the Mobius cameras over the pat two yeas,  I have only had one failure when the USB cable came out the back on serious rumble strips at Road America
 
The Mobius is cheap (under $70), the HD video quality is good (not Hero Black quality but still good), The camera is robust, light, no vibration, easy to customize exposure and FOV to your liking. Use regular sandisk cards, synchs perfectly to Traqmate and immediate playback with synched data in Traqstudio.

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Danny, great to hear that you have had no problems with the SanDisk cards. I have been highly skeptical of compatibility issues but not willing to risk it if there is any chance that it is true.

As for instant playback, almost but not quite the same. If you don't have the dash recording to a card you need to pull data from the traqmate, which is a PITA and slow. Even if you have the dash you need to take the data and the video from two different cards, and open both with their software. It all takes time. What Todd refers to is pulling out one card and opening the video file with pre-overlayed data directly with any video player. It provides an instant ridealong with critical coaching data. But we get the most bang for the buck by comparing data between our two cars and integrated data helps to immediately weed out all manner of conditions and obvious mistakes that impacted a given sector so we can zero in on meaningful differences. My guess is that the same is true for your team?
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I Have both the Hero 2 and 3 the 3 quality is much better, but it splits the audio and video files and i have not figured out how to merge when editing. But both IMO are good. the problem in my system, Traqmate with camera control is that you have to be sure the cable to the camera is seated perfectly or it will not turn on the camera.

 

Jim on yours turning off once started, sounds like a weak battery, they sell replacements.


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I Have both the Hero 2 and 3 the 3 quality is much better, but it splits the audio and video files and i have not figured out how to merge when editing. But both IMO are good. the problem in my system, Traqmate with camera control is that you have to be sure the cable to the camera is seated perfectly or it will not turn on the camera.

 

Jim on yours turning off once started, sounds like a weak battery, they sell replacements.

Buy the AIM smarty cam and get rid of all crap. Yes it is expensive but it works EVERY time perfectly. Skip one set of tires and it is paid for.


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Jim on yours turning off once started, sounds like a weak battery, they sell replacements.


I had a new battery in it.. it also recorded the entire T4 race with no charging between ?

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Mobius quality is better than GoPro Hero 1, 2 and 3. About the same as Hero 4 Silver, but nowhere near the quality of Hero 4 Black, Even when shooting at 1080p, the picture quality from the Hero 4 black is just spectacular, and remember the Black can shoot at 4k, but for my current needs this is not necessary

 

WRT to Data and video

Yes you have an SD card from Traqmate, and you have a micro SD from the Mobius, and you download both files to the same folder on your laptop. But the second you open Traqstudio the two files are automatically synched, so you can instantly see the great bumpdraft that caused you to be 3 mph faster into Sebring T17 on that one lap.

 

IMHO Data without video often creates more questions than answers, especially when coaching someone else and you need to try and understand what they are doing and what is causing the anomalies. 


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Mobius quality is better than GoPro Hero 1, 2 and 3. About the same as Hero 4 Silver, but nowhere near the quality of Hero 4 Black, Even when shooting at 1080p, the picture quality from the Hero 4 black is just spectacular, and remember the Black can shoot at 4k, but for my current needs this is not necessary
 
WRT to Data and video
Yes you have an SD card from Traqmate, and you have a micro SD from the Mobius, and you download both files to the same folder on your laptop. But the second you open Traqstudio the two files are automatically synched, so you can instantly see the great bumpdraft that caused you to be 3 mph faster into Sebring T17 on that one lap.
 
IMHO Data without video often creates more questions than answers, especially when coaching someone else and you need to try and understand what they are doing and what is causing the anomalies.


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I ordered the two camera mobius setup. This way if I have any issues I can blame it all on you :)
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I like the möbius setup to eliminate sync/charging issues. Still as of Sebring could not overlay two different TraqMate files for a client. :/

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Has there been any results from the fuel test send off?????


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Danny,

 

With the Mobius - do you have to rename the files like with the Go Pro so they all share the same file name?  I was using a Traqmate with Mobius a few weeks ago and was unable to open the video like I was able to with my Go Pro files.

 

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lol, I think that was me @ 3:47


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wow.. lots of other @#$^& in there.. I was the 2:54 mark :)


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Jim, looks like you got really luck you didn't end up into the other car there, was that blake? I don't know how we made it out alive after Cory dropped a wave on us on Lap 1.  Cliffy was almost perpendicular to the track right in front me, saved it though.


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Jim, looks like you got really luck you didn't end up into the other car there, was that blake? I don't know how we made it out alive after Cory dropped a wave on us on Lap 1.  Cliffy was almost perpendicular to the track right in front me, saved it though.

 

Yes, i want as close to Blake as i thought I would be..  Holton almost got to me too. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.. hard to get the dam car moving in that mess too.. just spins and slides.. 


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That sucks so many guys got caught in that.  Helped me gain 4 positions..so im not complaining :) 


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