All things VIR majors
#41
Posted 04-18-2016 07:01 PM
www.Vid.me/gCQJ
That is a dam strong motor to go around Dillion in between the 2 esses, which I'm sure there is no other car in the field that can do that, and then run down the car ahead, and leave Dillion, who's car is also strong. You should have been able to win hands down both races with that car.
And on a side note... I'm pretty positive that you were hired not long ago to drive with your client to do just the very thing that you are accusing Andrew and Stu of doing. And that was the talk around the paddock then. And "Pro Mazda Driver". You are right... He is one.
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#42
Posted 04-18-2016 07:10 PM
Full disclosure: SMAC chairman, my opinions do not reflect anything to do with the SMAC unless specifically stated.
Todd Lamb
Atlanta Speedwerks
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SpeedShift Transmissions - reliability and performance
Spec Miata / Spec Boxster / Spec Cayman specialist
Spec MX-5 Challenge Series Director
Global MX-5 Cup team
#43
Posted 04-18-2016 07:39 PM
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#44
Posted 04-18-2016 08:00 PM
I really have no desire to side with anyone on the incident in south bend...not my place.
Todd and I ran together all weekend and I didn't see anything out of the norm from his car while we were working together. I'd like to think if he had a monster under the hood he could have at least towed me to a front row starting spot for the races
2016 NASA Eastern States Champion
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2015 & 2016 Northeast Majors Tour Conference Champion
#45
Posted 04-18-2016 08:39 PM
Nice job Tyler.
Lots of good clean racing in the field, and also some poor racing that resulted in protests, and probation for Carbonell for agressive blocking to let Selin win (not to mention spinning Charbs on the cooldown lap). I may be the only one with the nerve to say it publicly, but there are plenty saying it behind the scenes - the championship this season has been tainted by BSI's tactics and Stu is on record saying Carbonell was hired to block for Selin. I don't have plans to run any more races in the near term so I hope someone else steps up to the plate and throws paper if this happens again. This goes beyond defensive driving, beyond teamwork; it's downright reckless and disrespectful to the rest of the competitors.
Todd you are a very good driver and an honest person; no doubt. And BSI may or may not have had Carbonell do what you said (I have know Idea). And God knows Carbonell and I have had our differences in the past but there is no need to taint Selin's championship. He drove well all year long and he deserves the congratulations of all of his peers. He would have won the championship with or without Carbonell. If you have a beef with Carbonell fine but Selin should be left out of it.
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#46
Posted 04-18-2016 08:42 PM
Nice job Tyler.
Lots of good clean racing in the field, and also some poor racing that resulted in protests, and probation for Carbonell for agressive blocking to let Selin win (not to mention spinning Charbs on the cooldown lap). I may be the only one with the nerve to say it publicly, but there are plenty saying it behind the scenes - the championship this season has been tainted by BSI's tactics and Stu is on record saying Carbonell was hired to block for Selin. I don't have plans to run any more races in the near term so I hope someone else steps up to the plate and throws paper if this happens again. This goes beyond defensive driving, beyond teamwork; it's downright reckless and disrespectful to the rest of the competitors.
You're not the only one with nerve, I just don't come on here much anymore. The blocking is out of control and I've had the conversation with guilty parties, good on you for throwing paper as me and some others have not. Perhaps it will stop now that the championship is won? It's a shame, I don't think the kid needed that to win.
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#47
Posted 04-18-2016 08:44 PM
Todd you are a very good driver and an honest person; no doubt. And BSI may or may not have had Carbonell do what you said (I have know Idea). And God knows Carbonell and I have had our differences in the past but there is no need to taint Selin's championship. He drove well all year long and he deserves the congratulations of all of his peers. He would have won the championship with or without Carbonell. If you have a beef with Carbonell fine but Selin should be left out of it.
No doubt about Selin winning the SE but both of them have blocked, Carbonell is just better at it.
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#48
Posted 04-18-2016 08:51 PM
No doubt about Selin winning the SE but both of them have blocked, Carbonell is just better at it.
That might be true but if that is the case then throw the paper or post some video so we can get some public shaming going. Waiting until a person wins and then saying they only did so because they blocked is unfair. You know me better then anybody Alex so you know how I feel about blocking but the time to single out the Champion has past. Selin won and he is the champ for this year and good for him. Lamb and other drivers are right: blocking sucks but lets not taint a winners championship over it.
#49
Posted 04-18-2016 08:53 PM
You're not the only one with nerve, I just don't come on here much anymore. The blocking is out of control and I've had the conversation with guilty parties, good on you for throwing paper as me and some others have not. Perhaps it will stop now that the championship is won? It's a shame, I don't think the kid needed that to win.
Thats all I was saying. Blocking sucks but that is not the only reason why he won this year..
#50
Posted 04-18-2016 09:02 PM
Here's a video for you... Just to show the power of that car and how nobody in this video lifted... Which aim data can comfirm as well.
www.Vid.me/gCQJ
That is a dam strong motor to go around Dillion in between the 2 esses, which I'm sure there is no other car in the field that can do that, and then run down the car ahead, and leave Dillion, who's car is also strong. You should have been able to win hands down both races with that car.
And on a side note... I'm pretty positive that you were hired not long ago to drive with your client to do just the very thing that you are accusing Andrew and Stu of doing. And that was the talk around the paddock then. And "Pro Mazda Driver". You are right... He is one.
1. Regarding the horsepower, tear him down if you think it's illegal (wasn't someone at BSI going to put up the money this weekend?). Most of us know it's probably not illegal so just go sharpen your pencil like the rest of us do.
2. Todd has done something similar in the past, yes.
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#51
Posted 04-18-2016 09:20 PM
#52
Posted 04-19-2016 06:47 AM
I think I remember someone mentioning that to you IMO, you have a tough road ahead as you have the heaviest version of the miata/mx5 which still is not fast enough to even draft pass and deep brake a decent Honda. You lose much of the handling advantage with the excessive weight you are forced to carry as well. You will do reasonably well at all tracks, win some of the more handling type tracks. But it will struggle to be on "equal" footing IMO with the current rules. Me/my car doing so well in the beginning skewed the results a little bit. Much of my success was attributed to " A Miata is just better than the sum of all its parts." When you consider Cliff Iras car makes more HP than your MX5 and weighs only 24XX.. It would seem to suggest something is wrong there. Great car to run majors and have fun, but at Runoffs against all the good Hondas.. You will struggle to get on the podium or even top five as more and more STL cars are showing up.
I hate to butt in on this VIR thread but since I built both Cliff's and Danny's engines and dyno both cars at my shop I can tell you that Cliff does not make more power, the screwed up rules just allow the fwd cars to run soooo much lighter. Pull 3% off the RWD cars and the class would be equal. Easy. I still think Danny could podium at Mid Ohio this year.
#53
Posted 04-19-2016 07:10 AM
After the DNF at Homestead and NOLA, I've been fighting an uphill battle all season. After making a few mistakes in Q2 on Saturday, I was to line up 11th for Race 1 and knew I had another battle on my hands. I gained a few spots on the start and set off to try and catch the lead group. Around mid race I caught them, and then proceeded to hang a wheel at Hog Pen and give it all back. I fought back to where I was, and even gained a spot when the last lap contact occurred. Fastest race lap let me know I had a good piece for the final battle on Sunday.
I woke up early on Sunday morning and built a spreadsheet to calculate the points and where I needed to finish in relation to Danny. By the numbers, I just had to finish directly behind him to take 2nd in the Championship behind Selin. I got a mediocre start on Sunday and was then squeezed off the track by Danny on the start, so I figured I would just ride around behind him and see how things shook out. I got a few spots in turn 5 due to Selin's off and was directly behind Danny. He ended up putting in off in Oak Tree and I was in no man's land with the leaders already ahead. I ended up picking up Lamb and we ran up to the lead group. I pushed Tyler to the lead, then went to 3rd, and proceeded to hang a wheel at turn 1. Went back to 5th, and then inherited 4th when Carbonell fell out. Around three laps from the end I caught Todd, and could see that Danny was coming down the front straight when I was entering Turn 3, so there was plenty of cars in between us. A few laps from the end, I had a nice run on Todd and passed him going into roller coaster. He could have contested me more than he did, and I appreciate him running me clean. I ended up third in the race and 2nd in the SE Majors Championship.
On to the less fun subject, I've had a few discussions with the parties mentioned here, but the blocking and jerking the wheel to move over in front of people has got to stop. I get it, this may be allowed in other sanctioning bodies, but as a collective group in SM we do not tend to play that way. Someone is going to end up getting hurt as the tolerance is diminishing. As Alex mentioned earlier, it isn't required because it wouldn't have changed any of the results all season.
-Blake
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#54
Posted 04-19-2016 07:27 AM
Congratulations to Selin and BSI Racing on a great year to earn the championship. The only mistake or DNF they had was on Sunday after the championship was decided. That is very impressive in such tight racing. Great job!After the DNF at Homestead and NOLA, I've been fighting an uphill battle all season. After making a few mistakes in Q2 on Saturday, I was to line up 11th for Race 1 and knew I had another battle on my hands. I gained a few spots on the start and set off to try and catch the lead group. Around mid race I caught them, and then proceeded to hang a wheel at Hog Pen and give it all back. I fought back to where I was, and even gained a spot when the last lap contact occurred. Fastest race lap let me know I had a good piece for the final battle on Sunday.I woke up early on Sunday morning and built a spreadsheet to calculate the points and where I needed to finish in relation to Danny. By the numbers, I just had to finish directly behind him to take 2nd in the Championship behind Selin. I got a mediocre start on Sunday and was then squeezed off the track by Danny on the start, so I figured I would just ride around behind him and see how things shook out. I got a few spots in turn 5 due to Selin's off and was directly behind Danny. He ended up putting in off in Oak Tree and I was in no man's land with the leaders already ahead. I ended up picking up Lamb and we ran up to the lead group. I pushed Tyler to the lead, then went to 3rd, and proceeded to hang a wheel at turn 1. Went back to 5th, and then inherited 4th when Carbonell fell out. Around three laps from the end I caught Todd, and could see that Danny was coming down the front straight when I was entering Turn 3, so there was plenty of cars in between us. A few laps from the end, I had a nice run on Todd and passed him going into roller coaster. He could have contested me more than he did, and I appreciate him running me clean. I ended up third in the race and 2nd in the SE Majors Championship.On to the less fun subject, I've had a few discussions with the parties mentioned here, but the blocking and jerking the wheel to move over in front of people has got to stop. I get it, this may be allowed in other sanctioning bodies, but as a collective group in SM we do not tend to play that way. Someone is going to end up getting hurt as the tolerance is diminishing. As Alex mentioned earlier, it isn't required because it wouldn't have changed any of the results all season.-Blake
Thanks for the push Blake! It's always tough clawing to the front in SM starting that far back. Great job on Sunday making it to the podium!
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#55
Posted 04-19-2016 08:35 AM
Just and FYI that video doesn't help your argument. I don't see anything other than a draft and it appears a push from Tyler to get Todd past. Also Tyler is able to draft right up to Dillon just like Todd did, he just couldn't do it soon enough to make the pass.
The video does show Andrew blocking though.
#56
Posted 04-19-2016 09:31 AM
Just and FYI that video doesn't help your argument. I don't see anything other than a draft and it appears a push from Tyler to get Todd past. Also Tyler is able to draft right up to Dillon just like Todd did, he just couldn't do it soon enough to make the pass.
The video does show Andrew blocking though.
Tyler did not push Todd in that video at least not at the point of the pass. Not saying there is anything wrong with Todd's car as I was next to him on the start and it looked like just about every other car in the top 15. I have never had a good enough run to pull off a pass like that through the esses but then again we don't know if Dillon was slowed earlier in the run. Andrew threw the block and paid the price shortly there after. Todd also paid the price when he didn't track left after gathering the car and caught a piece of Dillon's front bumper which caused his spin right after the video stopped.
#57
Posted 04-19-2016 12:46 PM
Full disclosure: SMAC chairman, my opinions do not reflect anything to do with the SMAC unless specifically stated.
Todd Lamb
Atlanta Speedwerks
www.atlspeedwerks.com
SpeedShift Transmissions - reliability and performance
Spec Miata / Spec Boxster / Spec Cayman specialist
Spec MX-5 Challenge Series Director
Global MX-5 Cup team
#58
Posted 04-19-2016 01:27 PM
At .44 seconds would be the pure definition of SCCA rule 6.1.1.C. Abrupt changes in direction that impede or affect the path of another car attempting to overtake or make a pass....................... And then follows up with a punt. Nuff said.
#59
Posted 04-19-2016 02:12 PM
Yup that is the jerking of the wheel that so many of us have become fed up with. Andrew is not the only one who does this.
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#60
Posted 04-19-2016 02:58 PM
Well...... After seeing Todd's video I think it is safe to say that is some real shitty driving by Andrew..... Damn shame too!
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