47 replies to this topic

[Johnny D]

And he's outta here !!,

 

In response to the incident that took place at the end of the American Sedan race during the 2016 National Championship Runoffs, the SCCA Board of Directors voted unanimously to suspend indefinitely the membership of Tom Sloe, driver of car No. 156 in the American Sedan class.

 

In accordance with SCCA Bylaw Article II Section 4.d, “The Board of Directors or the governing body of a Regular Member's Region may suspend a Member at any time for infraction of any Club rule or any other cause if the suspending body deems the action in the best interests of the Club.

 

“The suspending body shall immediately notify a Member who has been suspended, in writing, of the suspension,” Article II Section 4.d states.  “The suspended Member shall then be entitled to a reasonable opportunity to be heard, in person or through a representative, by the Board of Directors or a committee appointed by it. The Board of Directors may thereafter continue for a definite term, terminate, or rescind the suspension, or expel the Member, and its decision shall be final. In addition, if the Board of Directors is the original suspending body, and a hearing is held prior to any action, then the Board of Directors may suspend for a definite term or expel the Member without affording a second opportunity to be heard.”

 

Per the SCCA Bylaw, Sloe can request a hearing on the suspension.  If that occurs, the club’s Board of Directors will select a hearing board to address the matter.  If a hearing takes place, findings will be published in a future edition of SCCA Fastrack News.

 

http://www.scca.com/...irectors-action

[Bench Racer]

For those not aware, below is a short of what  happened.

 

Near the race end, Sloe stopped/waited a full lap to punt McDermid. Also be aware something occurred shortly after the green flag between these two. Intentional and he received due justice.

[FTodaro]

Someone needs to pass that on to NASA as they need to know that this guy is not safe.

[Rob Burgoon]

I'm rather interested in what happened at the start.

[AJ Roderick]

I'm rather interested in what happened at the start.

 

Low % move going into the right hander after madness. sloe went straight in, they touched fenders and he spun the car over the curb

[Rob Burgoon]

Any have a link to video from the start?

[wheel]

I was a couple of rows back.  Andy passed before turn 6 and Sloe locked up all four and blasted him in the right side door.  Andy continued and Sloe spun.  There were more instances than just the Andy deal.  Sloe hit me twice and I filed paper on him (first time in 41 years of SCCA racing) for the intentional hit on me on the back straight, the same lap he hit Andy.  He hit me, then drove down the back straight, pulled over and waited for Andy on the hill.  My protest was dis-allowed as I had not down loaded my video.  I would have appealed to the CoA after seeing my video, but by then I found out about all the RFAs working through the system for Andy's deal and thought it wasn't necessary.  They gave him the max allowable penalty at the event.  One year suspension of license and loss of three positions.  Andy appealed that the penalty was not severe enough.  I, along with several others, testified at the CoA and showed various videos.  The CoA submitted the case to the BoD for additional penalty, which is where we are now.  

[Johnny D]

So how did his excellent driving go unnoticed this past year ?

 

That's were this record keeping proposal is coming from ?

 

J~

[AJ Roderick]

Tom was under a driver review last year after a couple people in the class were unhappy with him. He kept his nose clean this season leading up to the runoffs where he finally blew a gasket.

[LarryKing]

Ha! Tom was my instructor at my first drivers school. We didn't discuss the park and punt maneuver. Must be in the advanced training course.

[David Brown]

Tom showed up at Mid Ohio yesterday at the PDX we had as crew... We were told Thursday evening he was coming and to issue a "cold pass". I was told he was compliant with that. I assume he's there today as the car he was crewing for was an AS mustang.

[Johnny D]

I can see why Tom was upset with Andy (I think) getting lose but...

Start of the race around 5 mins

 

https://www.scca.com/videos/2029758

[Johnny D]

Nick Feathers post/video on FB

 

https://www.facebook...08156254262995/

[Bench Racer]

Sloe got caught snoozing at the green flag and three corners later he put his nose where it didn't belong and he Sloe paid the price. It's pretty safe to know where McDermdi would have wound up had Sloe got total inside him, bouncing off the drivers left tire wall. Please remember all classes do not race as cleanly (lately) as SM. As fast as Sloe was to come from DFL to third a couple laps from the end, had he used his brains he would have had a podium finish. BUT, as Wheel posted he Wheel got blasted by Sloe on the back straight.

[Johnny D]

How far up along side does he(Sloe) need to be for that "racing room" need to take effect ?

 

Andy hit the late apex and didn't need to, even though that's the line their running.

He could of easily run a car width over. Yea, I know he was defending.

J~

[Tom Sager]

How far up along side does he(Sloe) need to be for that "racing room" need to take effect ?

 

Andy hit the late apex and didn't need to, even though that's the line their running.

He could of easily run a car width over. Yea, I know he was defending.

J~

Good question.  While most would advise that a pass there isn't usually a good decision, if a car does get inside you there then both drivers have some obligation for racing room, right?

 

I'm not defending the actions of the driver in the yellow car, just raising the point.

 

Interesting that an older model Mustang had the pole.

[Bench Racer]

Interesting that an older model Mustang had the pole.

And he had them covered until a late race mechanical ill. Watched the race at the carousel having a breakfast sandwich. McDermid smoked his brakes every lap entering the  carousel. Found it interesting McDermid shifted maybe 1/3-1/2 way down front straight and didn't hear other Mustangs doing the same, neither the older Mustang or Sloe.

[Jim Drago]

Good question.  While most would advise that a pass there isn't usually a good decision, if a car does get inside you there then both drivers have some obligation for racing room, right?

 

I'm not defending the actions of the driver in the yellow car, just raising the point.

 

Interesting that an older model Mustang had the pole.

 

On the contact at that the start.. Pobst did a talk on this at the convention a few years ago a few years ago. He called that area the triangle of despair.. or something similiar.  You cant just stuff it in under braking and getteh slightest over lap and expect racing rom. Once the other driver ( Mcdermid) intiated his turn in, IMO it was his corner.   I am sure, looking back and knowing there history, Andy would have never swung that wide with Sloe behind him.  

 

I really want to get so if i can get randy to do that talk here, it was a good one

[Tom Sager]

 Watched the race at the carousel having a breakfast sandwich.

Egg, cheese, ham or bacon?  Please don't leave us hanging here.

[Jamz14]

I haven't really looked at this incident that much so please forgive me if what I am about to say is a little off base for this specific situation.

 

Ive been thinking about starts. Probably because I am about to attend the Western Championships and thinking about my start strategy. How do you guys feel about no passing until after the start/finish line when the green is thrown? Do you think that would be safer than being able to pass as soon as the green is thrown? Would it stop people at the back from laying back and getting a run to move up to spots they don't deserve and causing trouble? Would it make it easier for the starter to throw green earlier and help to stretch the filed out before passing is allowed?