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Speaking of ventilators, it seems they aren’t getting the job done for most anyway. Early numbers from China were that 90-97% of people who went on one didn’t come back off alive. In the UK the numbers are better but still scarcely 1/3 came off alive, and they are the best I can find. So while I’m sure there was honest belief early on that cranking out a bunch of those fast would save a lot of lives, that’s not panning out. And because being on a vent introduces additional risks of its own they are reluctant to make that call sooner even if there were an unlimited supply and people trained to operate them. I guess it’s not surprising that the media isn’t reporting on this, people don’t really want to know that being put on a vent is a sign to have last rights given, but they tend to be on one for a long time and contribute to resource shortages will little chance for most to survive. But yes, if it’s someone I know I’d still expect them to try.
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Wishful thinking ^.

 

Just viewed on the Prod site the 2020 June Sprints registration is open, BUT, YA, MAYBE, we shall see. I hope the Sprints are run in the normal fashion.

Workers are the key.  If we can make it safe for them we should be able to go green. 


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Just think about the most basic of things at an event ,starting with signing the track waiver at the gate.

 

The same pen, clipboard, sign-in sheets handed to potentially 100's of people over the weekend. Are they going to wipe these things down after each transaction?.....don't think so.

 

...and unless you come with your own motorhome where are you going to eat and sleep?

 

This becomes far  more complex and potentially dangerous then we can imagine.



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Just think about the most basic of things at an event ,starting with signing the track waiver at the gate.

 

The same pen, clipboard, sign-in sheets handed to potentially 100's of people over the weekend. Are they going to wipe these things down after each transaction?.....don't think so.

 

...and unless you come with your own motorhome where are you going to eat and sleep?

 

This becomes far  more complex and potentially dangerous then we can imagine.

Some challenges for sure.  As for the pens, maybe something like this is the impetus to automate registration, tech and similar activities.  My gosh those gate waiver people for decades have handled pens from dozens of rig drivers every weekend that have picked their noses for several hours on their way to the track with who knows what viruses being offered.  Docusign and other e-signature apps are widely used now.  It would not be difficult to fully automate waivers, registration and the issuance of tech stickers.  It's silly we still do it the way we do in SCCA.  NASA has done it more simply for years.  As for sleeping, if an event were held today I'd sleep in my truck at the track if that presented the lower risk option and I've never slept in my truck.  Bring cooler, food and a grill.  Designate larger tech areas.  Show up at grid strapped in.  Reduce timing and scoring personnel and spread them out.  I think all aspects of a race weekend can be trimmed down, spread out and made very low risk with some preparation and cooperation. 

 

The risk of this virus and others will never go to zero for 100% of the population.  Mitigation over the next month or two along with good group practices should hopefully allow a lot of activities to resume.  If that's still too much risk for most then we're probably out of business until reliable treatments and vaccines are widely available. 


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If the hospitals are full, it's not reasonable to take the risk at a race track that someone might need to go to the hospital (that's full).

 

Until the hospitals are back to 'normal', motorsports are an unnecessary risk.



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If the hospitals are full, it's not reasonable to take the risk at a race track that someone might need to go to the hospital (that's full).

Until the hospitals are back to 'normal', motorsports are an unnecessary risk.


Interesting perspective. I guess you could apply that to a lot of “risky” behavior. Not being flip, just opening it up bit so to speak and weighing it. Walking in the woods birdwatching or looking for mushrooms adds unnecessary risk, as does riding a bicycle or worse a mountain/trail bike. I’m guessing a lot of people are hurt each year working on their race cars and at least visit an urgent care center. So I guess my take on it would be individual choice but not cause to cancel an event. But I won’t be a bit surprised if personal choice based on risks, particularly among volunteer workers, is sufficient to keep racing shut down a little longer. And I suspect some drivers will experience pressure from family to err on the side of waiting as well. For me personally I would not hesitate to attend as a driver even now, but I’m not confident that enough can be done to make enough workers comfortable.
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NCR SCCA just announced that the SARRC/MARRS Challenge at VIR, May 9-10, has been cancelled. Bummed as that was to be my first race this year. C'est la vie. 


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Will they run the new 2.0 mile layout?
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Will they run the new 2.0 mile layout?

Not in the Spring event.  We're still waiting on some barriers to get finished and the track to get certified to be able to run the new 2 mile version.  I believe it's tentatively hoped to be ready for the fall, but who knows if that's realistic now given that the world is on pause.



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Should be a great chance to lower the track record on the old course. There have been some improvements since the last Major as part of the oval repave, and I’m told it is faster.
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If the hospitals are full, it's not reasonable to take the risk at a race track that someone might need to go to the hospital (that's full).

 

Until the hospitals are back to 'normal', motorsports are an unnecessary risk.

Hospitals down here in Tenessee are not full. The largest one close to us is so dead they just layed off 400 workers and the remaining ones just lost their 401K, PTO, and sick time. 



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Hospitals down here in Tenessee are not full. The largest one close to us is so dead they just layed off 400 workers and the remaining ones just lost their 401K, PTO, and sick time.


Interesting, but I don’t understand all the circumstances leading up to that. Has it been reported on somewhere?
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https://www.buzzfeed...cial-distancing

Hmm.

Basically, it’s about cash flow and they have lost a ton of money on elective surgeries that have been cancelled. My guess is they are laying off specialists and non medical staff.

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I gather this is the one in question:
https://www.healthle...avirus-pandemic

And they are far from alone:
https://www.beckersh...o-covid-19.html

The 401K part I still don’t get, other than I assume no contributions for the duration of the layoff. They are at least keeping insurance and of course get whatever unemployment benefits are available.
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Interesting, but I don’t understand all the circumstances leading up to that. Has it been reported on somewhere?

https://www.wsmv.com...1a5f8275e8.html



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Will there be a tire truck at this event?

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Will there be a tire truck at this event?

I have been in touch with Fred Awald at Hoosier, and they are planning to be there. To pre-order, you can email him at f.awald1980@gmail.com.


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Looks like a depressing SM turnout here next weekend. I know this isn’t a Super Tour level track but people in other classes are sucking it up and coming out, sure wish a few more of you guys could use it as a way to shake off some rust if nothing else. And it might be a great opportunity to lower the 1.6 mile course record before we start using the new configuration in the fall.
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Looks like a depressing SM turnout here next weekend. I know this isn’t a Super Tour level track but people in other classes are sucking it up and coming out, sure wish a few more of you guys could use it as a way to shake off some rust if nothing else. And it might be a great opportunity to lower the 1.6 mile course record before we start using the new configuration in the fall.

Just not the hotbed of racing :(  Our division has really taken a hit in participation since the mid 00's.  That coupled with a track that is not all that exciting and imo pretty dangerous,  probably leads to low numbers. I'm only 4.5 hours away and needing to to test two new cars. A new Sm build and a new Spec Mx5 build both are likely two of the nicest cars we have ever built. (Both for sale btw :0 )  Not excited about taking them to Gateway as the penalities for mistakes or failures are very severe  :pessimist:


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I'm only 4.5 hours away and needing to to test two new cars. A new Sm build and a new Spec Mx5 build both are likely two of the nicest cars we have ever built.   :pessimist:

I did notice an entry from a past ESR team mate. Great to see him return. :bigsquaregrin:


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