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[Caveman-kwebb99]

We didn't have 99-whatever back in the day , and someone allowed the rules to creep to make the 1.6 the dog it is Jim.  That is total BS

 

Pat Please note, the rules have always been very creepy.  I know Jim runs the scca so its all his fault, there are no others on crb or smac.

 

Happpy haloween Maybe I will dress up as the creepy rules tonight just for you 

[pat slattery]

Pat Please note, the rules have always been very creepy.  I know Jim runs the scca so its all his fault, there are no others on crb or smac.

 

Happpy haloween Maybe I will dress up as the creepy rules tonight just for you 

You should just go as yourself Kyle   

[Caveman-kwebb99]

there might be a weight limit to tricker treating...

[Caveman-kwebb99]

Mellen, you better watch it buddy!

[Jim Drago]

We didn't have 99-whatever back in the day , and someone allowed the rules to creep to make the 1.6 the dog it is Jim.  That is total BS

We didn't have rubber tires at one point as well. I didn't know we are to the point of arguing fact now? The 1.6 is the LCD, it is not up for debate. Any attempt to balance the cars right or wrong is catering to the LCD which is the slowest car, which is the 1.6.

[pat slattery]

We didn't have rubber tires at one point as well. I didn't know we are to the point of arguing fact now? The 1.6 is the LCD, it is not up for debate. Any attempt to balance the cars right or wrong is catering to the LCD which is the slowest car, which is the 1.6.

I agree with that Jim, just how that we got to that point we differ

[Caveman-kwebb99]

Patty me boy, I remember when Nasa neutered the 99 bacdk a few years and you were all gung ho about it.  you went to one Nasa race and never came back again!  Maybe ESCCA wasnt all that bad after all?

[James York]

The vocal few 1.6 die-hards, will never be happy until that model is such an overdog, even a caveman can win in it......

 

I remember when I had a 45 mm plate....  and 1.6s were winning.

[Caveman-kwebb99]

The vocal few 1.6 die-hards, will never be happy until that model is such an overdog, even a caveman can win in it......

 

I resent you for saying that!  supposedly the 97 is the worst fo all the cars, I have proved what I can do in one of those.  if the 1.6 is overdogged I will own one though  

[Todd Green]

 I don't even know what to address?

Why are we setting the minimum weight at a value in order to allow for obese people to make weight?  Clear enough?

[Jim Drago]

Why are we setting the minimum weight at a value in order to allow for obese people to make weight?  Clear enough?

No it is not clear. At 190 ( I'll use your numbers) Adding cool suits etc, prep levels etc the weights are close to that now. Some can't make weight at 190. Should you feel we need to lower the weights of all cars 25,50 or 75 lbs you submit a letter asking for it. And btw .. when I answered your question, you then changed the question

[James York]

Why are we setting the minimum weight at a value in order to allow for obese people to make weight?  Clear enough?

 

I can't answer that.

 

I wonder why we don't have to take some sort of IQ test myself in order to get the idiots off the track.  I have always wondered why the club accommodates people with such genetic shortcomings.

[Brian129]

Why are we setting the minimum weight at a value in order to allow for obese people to make weight?  Clear enough?

190 is obese??

Humm. There are some drivers 6'4-5" tall and you want to call 190 obese?
Not to say I'm not fat, but if I get to 6'2" 200 I will be the lightest I've been since high school.

[pat slattery]

Patty me boy, I remember when Nasa neutered the 99 bacdk a few years and you were all gung ho about it.  you went to one Nasa race and never came back again!  Maybe ESCCA wasnt all that bad after all

You know why we never returned.  We finished 1 car behind the eventual NASA Champ at that race starting 7th. 

[pat slattery]

 

[Caveman-kwebb99]

because racing ESCCA was a better choice!  I know the reason!

[pat slattery]

What the heck is the ESCCA?

[Caveman-kwebb99]

do i need to tell you everything????  its what you want it to be East Street Car Club of America 

[Todd Green]

I can't answer that.
 
I wonder why we don't have to take some sort of IQ test myself in order to get the idiots off the track.  I have always wondered why the club accommodates people with such genetic shortcomings.

You have a good point there.  I think we should all have to document how much we spend on racing and then those who spend the most should get taxed extra and that goes into the club fund and gets distributed to those who can only afford to spend the least so that we're all on equal footing.  After all some people are born with genetic shortcomings that don't allow them to earn as much as others.   I.e., nice straw man argument.

 

And no Jim it isn't 190.  At least not in the 1.6's I've seen, it is more in the 225-230 range.

 

P.S.  You do have to pass two cognitive tests to get on track (once to get your license and every time you have to get your medical.)  If you think the "IQ" bar on those tests is too low, please follow Jim's advice and write your letter.

[Todd Green]

190 is obese??

I'll bold what I wrote, "IMO, 190 lbs for a driver is more than reasonable and would cover the upper end of the normal weight range (BMI) for even tall drivers."  I put in 1.9m for "tall drivers" which is close to 6'3" for the non-metrically inclined.

 

Last time I checked "normal weight range" was not synonymous with obese.  However it is a fact that for the average US height and the current specified minimum weight, by CDC obesity standards, we are "accommodating" obese people with our current rules.