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[alfapwr]

OR, do something simple to reduce the torque advantage of the 99+,  Something along the lines of a larger diameter exhaust perhaps?

[Bench Racer]

Thanks for the input Saul.

[Mark]

It seems like the motor options for increasing the 1.6 torque are pretty limited. What about allowing the 1.6 to run a 4.78 or 4.86 ring and pinon? These are the two r/p options for the 99 torsen from Mazda Comp.

 

Assuming 120 ft/lb tq from a NB,110 ft/lb tq from a NA: 

 

               Tq    Rear Ratio   Effective Tq  NB Delta

NB 1.8    120      4.3                  516                 0

NA 1.6    110      4.3                  473               -43

NA 1.6    110      4.78                525.8             9.8

 

I don't know if these are representative numbers for the typical SM or not.

 

The 4.78 gives the 1.6 a slight effective torque advantage but not nearly as much as it was at a disadvantage with the 4.3 ratio. Fix that with bumping 1.6 weight to 2450 .  The more frequent shifts might make that extra ballast unnecessary though. Maybe allow the $100.00 mod to increase the redline to 7400 at the same time.

[pat slattery]

You're welcome Mr. BC !

That is the one place on the track that you want to be in a 1.6 

[Jim Drago]

Hey Mark,figure out what we need and I'll let you run my car anytime you want for free ! lol

I'll even let you set it up anyway you want ! Lmao !!!!

Maybe thats all you need, Mark in your car?

 

I agree with Mark said.. Test and ask for what you want as a united group. 

[Mark]

Maybe thats all you need, Mark in your car?

 

I agree with Mark said.. Test and ask for what you want as a united group. 

 

No 1.6's in the house currently.

 

Mark

[B(Kuch)Kucera45]

Maybe thats all you need, Mark in your car?

I agree with Mark said.. Test and ask for what you want as a united group.

I had some great battles with him,with me driving my car and he was in his 99 !

I can't remember but was that a top level prep car,can you remember ?

Damn it I can't find the all the diff.smiley faces to add to my post,but you know me Jim I'm retarted !

[Jim Drago]

I had some great battles with him,with me driving my car and he was in his 99 !

thats because you were in the overdog!

[Johnny D]

Don't get your Marks mixed up.

There's iron canyon and Saul/Bennett (<--not sure I spelled that right)

J~

[B(Kuch)Kucera45]

thats because you were in the overdog!

Shouldn't you be in a meeting !

[Jim Drago]

Is your meeting over already !

no, they are talking about giving the 1.6 performance mods, so I am tuning out and posting instead

[B(Kuch)Kucera45]

Let me point out one thing,I never beat him close but no cigar !

Close doesn't count unless it's horse shoes and and grenades !

Damn it someone tell me how to get to all the smiley face page !

[B(Kuch)Kucera45]

no, they are talking about giving the 1.6 performance mods, so I am tuning out and posting instead

What do you guys have one guy in the meeting now talking to himself about what the 1.6 needs and all you guys are sitting in the hallway laughing at him through the window ? Lmao !!!!!

[Mark]

Don't get your Marks mixed up.

There's iron canyon and Saul/Bennett (<--not sure I spelled that right)

J~

 

Now Jim's comment makes much more sense!

 

Iron Canyon Mark out.

[Johnny D]

What do you guys have one guy in the meeting now talking to himself about what the 1.6 needs and all you guys are sitting in the hallway laughing at him through the window ? Lmao !!!!!

So it's just like here, huh ?? 
J~

[B(Kuch)Kucera45]

It looks like he is done talking to himself,we can go back in now !

[ECOBRAP]

 

 

 

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[Brandon]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsYJm9j2OEQ

 

Heavy Metal FTW!!!

(need to go watch this again)

[Jim Drago]

Seriously.. 

 

No parity adjustments have been sent up to the CRB for approval.  So none were discussed.

The SMAC has not recommended any parity adjustments as they are waiting for the results from the test of the "super" committee. 

 

As most know, the BOD has the SMAC/CRB on a rules season the last 3 years or so. Meaning less weights and plates, no rules changes can be made mid year. All rules changes need to be approved by the CRB on their meeting immediately following the Runoffs to get in the book fro the following season. 

 

 At this point of the year, only plates/weights can be adjusted by the SMAC/CRB. Anything else has to come from BOD level or with special BOD approval. 

 

If the upcoming tests show something outside the normal is needed to make parity adjustments, I would feel the BOD would support it, but only time will tell there. 

Jim. 

[Tom Hampton]

Heavy Metal FTW!!!

(need to go watch this again)

 

I'm afraid that it won't be the same...ahem..."sober".