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[Ron Alan]

Racists, Bigots, Homophobs, CHEATERS!  There...got them all in for you David L. 

 

"PC"and "all are great attitude" is dragging this country down but the opposite end of the spectrum is incredibly short sided. I like to speak my mind but I also dont want to drink alone the rest of my life. Troll is being generous...

[Danica Davison]

David, very ignorant statements being made.  I may have had somewhat similar thoughts a few years ago, but not as extreme. I thought some guys were pushing the envelope intentionally, and I am sure some were, but I was also a little ignorant back then too. I will admit, still am to some regard.  However, I think the class has come a long way in compliance since the 2014 runoffs.  The class as a whole has greatly matured and I think a lot of the individuals have as well.   I have come to respect my "rival teams" a lot more over the last couple years and not as quick to judge them as cheaters because they beat us and I think a lot more people in the paddock are starting to feel the same way.  It can only get better from 2014 Runoffs and no doubt it has.

 

You say tech hasn't caught up yet and guys up front are still blatantly cheating, but I disagree completely.  Many of those "fast guys"  have been torn down at least once in 2015, with every major engine builder, and the results are much better as most have passed just fine.  It will take time before everything is 100% clean.  Sure, there will always be bad apples, but that is in every class.   I think most of the faster guys want to be compliant now and we will continue to see it improve.

 

And Walter, there may be some validity but it doesn't make much sense to me. A hole I see in that argument is:  Why would an engine builder build 1 or 2 "better motors"  for a couple winning guys when they can build the same strong motor for all customers and have a better chance of more of his motors up front?  I think having 6+ out of the top 10 from the same engine builder may produce a bigger demand for new customers than just 1 or 2 in the top 10.  Those 1 or 2 guys aren't going to win every race in Spec Miata, but if you can consistently finish with a majority in the top 10 at a majors/runoffs...I think that is more impressive.

[Tom Hampton]

Your summation most would likely agree with. However something about being an a$$hole on the forums and a troll in general seems to discredit the content of your posts.

I'm assuming that the second "your" (bolded above) is intended to be a generic "your" rather than referring to Steve's posts (and forum conduct).  Or perhaps more accurately, "his", referring specifically to David L.

[LarryKing]

 

Why would an engine builder build 1 or 2 "better motors"  for a couple winning guys when they can build the same strong motor for all customers and have a better chance of more of his motors up front?

 

Because - as we all know it's the driver not the motor.

 

David L. - bomber pilots say "when you start taking flak it means you're getting close to the target."

[Steve Scheifler]

Well that backfired!

To Walter's point, for some of the same reasons that Todd and Jim have said some engines will be better than others. Unless they are "growing peaches", there are a very limited number of nearly perfect/ideal parts, and it doesn't make sense to sell those to the next guy in line. Has always been that way, not much you can do about it. In theory the evolution of the head rules has dealt with that to some degree, but it applies to many things.

[Jim Drago]

I'm assuming that the second "your" (bolded above) is intended to be a generic "your" rather than referring to Steve's posts (and forum conduct).  Or perhaps more accurately, "his", referring specifically to David L.

Fixed, generic and not pointing to anyone in particular, certainly not Steve

[Tom Hampton]

Fixed, generic and not pointing to anyone in particular, certainly not Steve

How "PC" and "All are great" of you. ;-)

[FTodaro]

This is a general statement not directed any anyone in particular. For those of you who feel that you are getting beat by a faster car, because they are bending the rules, cheating, have a better motor, or their motor builder give them the good stuff. Try a little experiment rather than speculating as to the cause. See if this other driver will take your car, put their set up on it and take it out on the track and compare their lap times to yours on a given weekend. See how much of this is you or something else.

 

I have.

[Richard Astacio]

This is a general statement not directed any anyone in particular. For those of you who feel that you are getting beat by a faster car, because they are bending the rules, cheating, have a better motor, or their motor builder give them the good stuff. Try a little experiment rather than speculating as to the cause. See if this other driver will take your car, put their set up on it and take it out on the track and compare their lap times to yours on a given weekend. See how much of this is you or something else.

 

I have.

 

Agreed, I have as well.  

 

What also helps is getting behind them for a few laps, and its seems like the car is skating around the track.....

[wreckerboy]

Your summation most would likely agree with. However something about being an a$$hole on the forums and a troll in general seems to discredit the content of certain posts/posters.

There ya go, bringing money back into it...

[Glenn Davis]

There went two hours of my life...