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[Rob Burgoon]

I don't think Jr's driving ability has been questioned?

I'm with ya on that. It's really a shame that we (he) are getting cheated out of seeing what he can really do.

[Elliott Skeer]

Im just going to throw out there that the "BOOM!" is a trademark of the BOOM Crew of Cali, not affiliated with any BOOM of the Florida region

[svvs]

I think Meathead racing had once made some T-shirts that said "I'm just here for the man drama" or something like that.

Maybe they should export some to Florida?

I hope Jr can do some more racing, in a compliant car, and do well. Young people keep any sport going.

Also, I may come run in the SE just to meet the mythical Andrew C. I'll be the guy in the back of the pack if I do.

[moovn]

Moovn is Scott? Scott McKay posts under his own name which only leaves Scott Argow the NASA FL Spec Miata director...

Yes you figured out who I am now come get me!!

[KentCarter]

So... on one hand we have Ernie the First claiming that it was a random header pulled out of the heap that happened to be missing a 'nub' or two . On the other, we have NASA claiming it was nicely cleaned up. My issue with this is that I once got a header from Mazda that was just really, really nice. Would the folks at NASA be able to tell a lucky draw from Mazda from Ernie's die grinder job?

[suck fumes]

I have personally seen that Mazda header that Kent is talking about and he's right several years ago they did for a very short time sell a batch that had the welds only on the outside.

[Mike Collins]

I think Meathead racing had once made some T-shirts that said "I'm just here for the man drama" or something like that.

Maybe they should export some to Florida?

I hope Jr can do some more racing, in a compliant car, and do well. Young people keep any sport going.

Also, I may come run in the SE just to meet the mythical Andrew C. I'll be the guy in the back of the pack if I do.

The 2010 MEATHEAD Racing official Runoffs Sweatshirt and T-Shirt Collection as developed by and worn by the wives of MEATHEAD Racing. "I'm here for the Man Drama". It was so popular several wives of other drivers from around the country ordered and received some. I know Mrs. Steyn has one!

[MPR22]

So... on one hand we have Ernie the First claiming that it was a random header pulled out of the heap that happened to be missing a 'nub' or two . On the other, we have NASA claiming it was nicely cleaned up. My issue with this is that I once got a header from Mazda that was just really, really nice. Would the folks at NASA be able to tell a lucky draw from Mazda from Ernie's die grinder job?

So theoretically we might have to start the hunt for that special grease again?

[High Chair]

I have personally seen that Mazda header that Kent is talking about and he's right several years ago they did for a very short time sell a batch that had the welds only on the outside.

That may be true but I doubt that they had grinding wheel marks and a non-symmetrical ground out core. Nor where there visible marks at both ends of the header. Rest assured even the most inexperienced tech person would have noticed the header in question and an experienced one like Mike or Glen would be able to tell you what was used to grind it, how long it took to do, and if it was actually worth doing. LOL

[High Chair]

So theoretically we might have to start the hunt for that special grease again?

SHhhhh! This thread was a diversion. We don't want people using the special grease.

[latapx]

Jim, the header is no different than folks that have their transmision/differentials REM. Some stuff is so real easy to visually see/view. Shucks, I've seen lightened transmision gears. I wouldn't dought there's lightened ring gears. Not pointing fingers at any org.

Funny you mention this...I was at PRI last year and there was this little Japanese guy in a booth spinning a steel collar on a steel shaft. No bearings or oil...just microfinished surfaces. I talked to him for a while and at the end of the conversation I said "I'm sure you get a lot of Spec Miata business." He all of a sudden semi-smirked and had a deer in the headlights look at the same time. I have no doubt there are REM'd gear boxes and diffs out there...but who's gonna check? But, its the "who's gonna check" attitude that is ruining the class and causing 12 page threads. In my opinion, once you are caught, your fellow racers are always going to think you are up to something. I'd rather be legit and battling mid pack than breaking the rules at the front stressing about when I'm going to be caught. I do this for fun and stress RELIEF! Once its not fun, to me, its not worth doing anymore.

[Danny Steyn]

The 2010 MEATHEAD Racing official Runoffs Sweatshirt and T-Shirt Collection as developed by and worn by the wives of MEATHEAD Racing. "I'm here for the Man Drama". It was so popular several wives of other drivers from around the country ordered and received some. I know Mrs. Steyn has one!

Mike - this is a treasured possession in the Steyn household, and will make its appearance at the Runoffs again this year. Much appreciated as always.

[LarryKing]

I have no doubt there are REM'd gear boxes and diffs out there...but who's gonna check?

Everyone doing this is morally obligated to voluntarily disclose their transgressions on this site and then say they're sorry. Come on, it's for the good of the class.

OK, who's first...

[FTodaro]

OK, I will go first, I once did a NASA race without the required stickers!

Wow I feel better now. What a release.

[Glenn]

I have cheated in EVERY race I have done since 2009.........But now I am a new man, so this weekend I will be 100% in compliance. Oh yeah this will be my first race since the 2008 13 hr

[LarryKing]

You guys didn't say "I'm sorry"

[MPR22]

I just noticed my avatar has th SCCA sticker covered on the front bumper, therefore I was not in compliance during the STL qualifying Saturday May 4th at Hallett. I should be flogged and have my pole position effort taken from me.

For this transgression I am truly sorry.

As for helping my wife on her final exam, hell no I ain't sorry, I got the girl!

[Lin]

Good Job NASA, for taking on the extra work but it was well worth it.

I takes a lot of balls to cheat, and then to brag about being better than your competitor.

My guess is that JR had no clue but SR who was vary vocal about talents, is just off the Wow Factor map.

Does this mean that the press release factory will be slowing down.

Are they going to do a press release that they got caught cheating?

[Lin]

Not only this forum community, but the 10-15 NASA FL SMers that don't post here that have been getting annihilated by these cars for the past 8 months. All of them have been realigning their cars before every event and swapping hub grease after every session.

This is the main reason the class is now combined with Thunder. Almost everyone who raced in SM with NASA last season is taking a break from NASA this year to work on their aerodynamics, hub grease, blah blah BPP and see how this played out. Thank you to NASA Florida and National for finally addressing tech for us.

[john mueller]

Are they going to do a press release that they got caught cheating?

I think this 12-page post (rant) will suffice.