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its funny to have a bunch of guys who will debate endlessly the specifics of a single 1mm of toe and its effect on handling of a car, hold up there hands and say "the earth system either has to get warmer or colder, it can't do anything else, EVER. the entire thermodynamic system that is the earth can only do one of two things. and if scientists argue that the entire earths thermodynamic system is perhaps a BIT more complex than that, it must mean that they are communists and hate cars"
yup, makes perfect sense. 
if a miata's handling is a complex problem with many trade offs, interaction effects and variables, then wouldn't the entire earths thermodynamic properties maybe ... just maybe ... be more complex than "its get hotter everywhere a uniform amount at a uniform rate?"
crazy, i know. 
BTW, the earth is, on the whole, warming. this does not mean that climate change is in an inaccurate term, or a "hedge" against cooling ... something that is not, and has never actually be predicted. yes, im aware of the right wing's popularizing of the TIME article predicting global cooling in the 1970s. thankfully, TIME, is not a scientific journal, with peer reviewed articles. such an white paper was written recently showing that actually in the 1970s, the majority of climatologists still were predicting warming.
sorry. 
if we can apply science to improve automotive performance, then we can apply science to the climate too. thousands of people every day do. that doesn't make them communists.


A shill for Al Gore bahahahahahahaa

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And texting is good for you helps with the eye hand coordination!

U wiser folks who text are lazy, you talk to your phone and the phone dose the work. :scratchchin:   


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U wiser folks who text are lazy, you talk to your phone and the phone dose the work. :scratchchin:


Lol I'm a caveman I use my fingers
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We would really have news to talk about if they would ever post the press release about the "Gorilla coming back"

 

as much as spec miata man drama would LOVE to see Gorilla coming back, don't think it's gonna happen.  if it were, they'd have sore fingers from typing long posts after race weekends.......THAT was the heyday of man drama.....


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I'm not sure how global climate change is making the forum less boring. I'm less interested in that, then Danica's left nut.

 

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as much as spec miata man drama would LOVE to see Gorilla coming back, don't think it's gonna happen.  if it were, they'd have sore fingers from typing long posts after race weekends.......THAT was the heyday of man drama.....

sealing engines in qualifying was the beginning of the end... haven't seen anyone ( him included)out qualify the field by two seconds with no draft since they started that procedure :)
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Old people love the term "Millennial" to justify their incredibly outdated way of thinking.  :optimist:


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Old people love the term "Millennial" to justify their incredibly outdated way of thinking.  :optimist:

 

"Andddd I would have won that race too! If it wasn't for them meddling kids!!!"


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Old people love the term "Millennial" to justify their incredibly outdated way of thinking.  :optimist:

mil·len·nial
miˈlenēəl/
adjective
 
  1. 1.
    denoting or relating to a period of a thousand years.
    "the current increase in hurricanes is only a small fluctuation within this longer millennial cycle"
  2. 2.
    denoting or relating to an anniversary of a thousand years.
    "the millennial anniversary of Leif Eiriksson's voyage to the New World"
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  3.  
     
noun
 
  1. 1.
    a person reaching young adulthood in the early 21st century.
    "the industry brims with theories on what makes millennials tick"
     
     
    Nothing negative here in the definition... SO
        We could add "group that thinks they know it all and have no idea that don't" or "Mom and Dad gave them participation trophies all the time when no other group ever needed them and now they think they are special or better than they are"
     
     
    FIXED............
     
     
     

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He is building that race track

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He is building that race track

 

Who? What? Where?


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Well I guess it figures the "Spec Miata" in the video is a NA 1.8 that magically revs to 7,500. 


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its funny to have a bunch of guys who will debate endlessly the specifics of a single 1mm of toe and its effect on handling of a car, hold up there hands and say "the earth system either has to get warmer or colder, it can't do anything else, EVER. the entire thermodynamic system that is the earth can only do one of two things. and if scientists argue that the entire earths thermodynamic system is perhaps a BIT more complex than that, it must mean that they are communists and hate cars"

yup, makes perfect sense. 

if a miata's handling is a complex problem with many trade offs, interaction effects and variables, then wouldn't the entire earths thermodynamic properties maybe ... just maybe ... be more complex than "its get hotter everywhere a uniform amount at a uniform rate?"

crazy, i know. 

BTW, the earth is, on the whole, warming. this does not mean that climate change is in an inaccurate term, or a "hedge" against cooling ... something that is not, and has never actually be predicted. yes, im aware of the right wing's popularizing of the TIME article predicting global cooling in the 1970s. thankfully, TIME, is not a scientific journal, with peer reviewed articles. such an white paper was written recently showing that actually in the 1970s, the majority of climatologists still were predicting warming.

sorry. 

if we can apply science to improve automotive performance, then we can apply science to the climate too. thousands of people every day do. that doesn't make them communists. 

 

https://3kpnuxym9k04...print-chart.jpg

 

https://upload.wikim...-2013-top40.svg

 

Consider these two charts simultaneously.  The fastest growing factor in energy consumption and carbon emissions is the 3rd world developing towards the per capita energy usage of the U.S., Canada, EU, Russia, wealthy Middle Eastern countries, etc.

 

The base energy needs (and "wants") of every first world human exceeds the potential savings of more negligible virtue-signalling activities included at the bottom of the first chart.

 

Having spent 8 years trying to model complex systems, I'm curious that anyone can have high confidence opinions about the causes of "climate change".  

 

As a model, it looks to me like this:

A massive spinning ball (Earth) filled with molten iron (lava?), with massive internal friction (Tectonic plates?), magnetically orbiting the world's hottest "space heater" (the Sun), and it has been doing so for 2000 years, or billions of years, depending on which person who has been alive less than 100 years I am listening to?  How am I to model the internal heat source of the Earth?  How do I model the external heat source of the Sun?  How do I model the conductive, convective, and radiant coefficients between the hot spinning ball and hot burning star it is orbiting?

 

And the oldest semi-reliable measurement of temperature we have are ... what ... about 150 years old?  Taken by guys wearing tophats in London, using mercury thermometers?

 

In summary, the population growth in the 3rd world, combined with their increased energy "wants", would appear to be at least 2 orders of magnitude greater than anything the 300M people of the U.S. can affect.  Even a full 100% reduction in per capita emissions in the U.S. will be akin to bailing out the Titanic with Solo cups.

 

Unless, of course, there isn't really a "problem", to begin with.  But if there is a real problem, such a believer should transfer calories and dollars spent on virtue-signaling "conservation", and allocate them to proposals that have a chance of actually solving the problem.  Maybe that is directly replenishing the Ozone layer, or developing CO2-hungry ground cover.  Maybe it is invading Canada, or nuking Asia, or some other means of "population control".  With current technology, electric cars are not much of a solution, to my eye.  

 

But, like the Horseshit Crisis of 1894, I am optimistic we will solve "climate change".  It would be nice to see more reliable (and less politicized) work done to understand it.  

 

P.S.  The copy of that first chart that I keep on my office wall has an edit adding the 1+ Million tons of excess emissions caused by Dieselgate.  "Environmentalists" that drive VW/Audi/Porsche or other VAG products is like a Safety Professional riding an ACME Rocket Unicycle, or driving a Spec Miata race with a leather helmet and no belts :) :) :)


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Old people love the term "Millennial" to justify their incredibly outdated way of thinking.  :optimist:

 

In my database of people who "yell at clouds", those under 28 and those over 70 are about equal, with an approximate 30% failure rate.  But, amongst the SM community, I'm having trouble thinking of someone who yells at clouds more than The Wauwatosa Warbler! "  :)


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Inferring climate conditions beyond 150 years ago is not difficult. Of course the climate has constantly been changing since the dawn of time, but to some how try to argue that humanity doesn't have any impact and we are simply along for the ride is laughable.

 

I was more on the conservative side of climate change until I had to work at one of the largest open pit coal mines on Earth. When you see two train loading silos discharging crushed coal at 12,000 tons per hour each, 24 hours a day, and then realize we are literally transporting that coal across the country and lighting it on fire, it's an eye opener.

 

However, realistically humans are not capable of a unified global solution so the point in arguing about it is completely useless. As usual we hopefully don't go extinct on pure dumb luck.


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As said best by Sir Alex 'The Cuban Missile' Bolanos:  "Global warming is bullshit. Humans are a pimple on the earth's face, and it will pop us off whenever the hell it wants to."


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As said best by Sir Alex 'The Cuban Missile' Bolanos:  "Global warming is bullshit. Humans are a pimple on the earth's face, and it will pop us off whenever the hell it wants to."

 

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So if I run toe out all around to counter-act camber thrust and free up the rolling resistance, does that mean I'm environmentally friendly? 


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