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[wheel]

Score some points this season and you can go, thanks to Jarhead's request to the BoD/CRB for a slight change in the point requirements. Come to HPT in July and grab some Midiv points.
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[Glenn]

Runoffs 06 - 2 cars $14k
Runoffs 07- 1 car 10k
Took 8 off hated Topeka!
09 Went as SM Line Chief in Tech - $3500
Runoffs 10 - We went with 7 cars and did it all the way 86k all in for all of us
Runoffs 11 - 2 cars 17k (plus a motor and head work after to replace blown motor)

But we had sooooo much fun!

[Bench Racer]

I suck, I drop 2K to 3K a weekend and have never had enough points (most years 0) for an invite -- I guess I should have gone the year any fool could go

Willie, finish 8 national races (no points required ) & your in. Cut your costs for your 8 national races , do 55% of the laps & spend your money for the Runoffs prep along with doing a test day if you have a once in a lifetime dream of doing the Runoffs at Road America. This deal is no different than X number of drivers have joined divisons where they get easy points every time they enter a race or they cherry pick easy points races.

Updated for 2012
To qualify for an invitation to the 2012 SCCA National Championship Runoffs, drivers will need to have a minimum of 4 starts (2 must be in your division) and 4 finishes AND achieve at least one of four criteria based on Divisional and National points. They are:
- Finish in the top three of their class in their Divisional Championship.
- Finish in the top half of the coast-to-coast, National Point Standings within their class.
- Reach or exceed a minimum number of points for a given class in the National Point Standings (listed below).
- Finish eight or more National races

[Adam Molaver]

Runoffs 06 - 2 cars $14k
Runoffs 07- 1 car 10k
Took 8 off hated Topeka!
09 Went as SM Line Chief in Tech - $3500
Runoffs 10 - We went with 7 cars and did it all the way 86k all in for all of us
Runoffs 11 - 2 cars 17k (plus a motor and head work after to replace blown motor)

but how much work did you do yourself? just the raw dollar figure i doubt illustrates the cost to those who don't do their own wrenching... not many on here are building their own motors (at least front running motors). given you are building cars on a regular basis, i'm guessing you're not paying the 'normal' piper rate either. installing suspension, paint, hell, there are folks here who don't change their own pads.

point being - $10K out of pocket for you is probably at least 20K for someone not spinning wrenches... while an extreme example, what would OPM charge to recreate danny's car from this year or last year? would $30K even cover it (read:not a chance). a good car - not great, good - that is: good clean donor, everything gone through (bushings/bearings/trans/rear), high quality cage/seat/harness/fire system, competitive motor, gutting, hard top, and basic paintwork is a $20K car, paying someone else to do all the work. you can build a car or buy a ready to go mid-pack car for significantly less, but to run up front, even regionally, costs.

ahm

[Jim Drago]

Cut your costs for your 8 national races , do 55% of the laps. This deal is no different than X number of drivers have joined divisons where they get easy points every time they enter a race or they cherry pick easy points races.

IMO, this philosophy is against all that racing and SM stands for. I will likely lose the division this year because I CHOSE to race people, not score points. I skipped Gateway and and easy twelve in division points to go to Atlanta hoping to finish on the podium. To each their own, but why bother racing at all if this is the mindset? That is old school SCCA way of thinking, thankfully that mind set is not prevalent in SM.


Senna would rollover in his grave ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA

[Mike Asselta]

IMO, this philosophy is against all that racing and SM stands for. I will likely lose the division this year because I CHOSE to race people, not score points. I skipped Gateway and and easy twelve in division points to go to Atlanta hoping to finish on the podium.

Come up to MAM in June for 12 easy points, and bring that bug-eyed miata.

[LarryKing]

A significant difference between Senna and me - he didn't have to personally finance replacement cars - "roll-out the back-up". In fact, if I damage my car beyond repair it's game over.

Prost fan.

[Bench Racer]

No question run 8 races & go to the show is NOT what SM is about but the SCCA did include the new invite rule$$$

[Mike Collins]

The SCCA just changed the rule. Previously in layman's terms you had to be in the top half of POINTS EARNERS. Now you have to be in the top half of PARTICIPANTS. The way the rule was written was unfair to SM and SRF as in just about every other class at a National race every participant is a points earner.

[Alex Bolanos]

Prost fan.

Figures.

[Jim Drago]

Figures.

ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

[Jim Drago]

A SOLID "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO " TO PROST AND THE MOOSE FOR BEING A PROST FAN.

[LarryKing]

Senna was a dirty driver, thought so when he was alive and ain't changing my opinion just 'cause he died. Same goes for Ironhead Sr. (Fans hold up three fingers to indicate number of remaining teeth.)

Guess what? I never liked Schumacher either, that arrogant prick.

Who do I like? Mario Andretti is the best there ever was. Petty is King, so is Kenny.

Not sorry.

[Jim Drago]

Who is Kenny?

I agree on Earnhardt senior( dead or alive) and Schumacher, disagree on Senna entirely.. Your confusing passion with dirty driving


trying to think of my favorites.. Currently Alonso and Button and Kyle Bush, Jeff Gordon and Jimmi Johnson in Nascar.

All time, Senna, Young Paul Tracy ( first stint with Penske) and Emmerson Fiittipaldi and Montoya ( who I am losing a little bit of respect for year after year)

[LarryKing]

Who's King Kenny ?!?

[LarryKing]

Met Emo at Mid-O back in the good'ol CART days. Nicest guy!

[Todd Green]

Who is Kenny?

Everyone knows Kenny!

Montoya ( who I am losing a little bit of respect for year after year)

Warning NSFW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cGP-sF5SFw

Mira!! You broke my !^@#@ head!

[Jamz14]

Moose,

I agree with the other guys, all becomes clear now! You being a Prost fan. Don't understand your logic for being one. Even if I agree that Senna was dirty (and I don't), why would that make me a Prost fan by default? And if you want to talk about dirty, there are two types at that level of sport; the first which you were referring to about on track antics, and the second type. That being off track political antics which Prost was a pro at. The first is the realm of people with passion (not saying that this makes it right), the second is the realm of weenies. I stand with the passionate, if sometimes too passionate guys.

I hope you know that my comments are all in good fun when it comes to this.

J

[LarryKing]

Don't believe everything you see in the movies. Senna had a definite slant, and was edited to make Prost look like a bad guy. Other than that I enjoyed the show.

One more thing, Iron Man is not real, it's just Robert Downy, Jr. wearing a costume.

Senna was a crasher.

[Jamz14]

Wasn't just from a pretty good documentary. Remember, Prost is still driving. Just seems like a complete weiner. Never seems happy, Never invites positive attitudes around him. And , even though the documentary may have hyped the virtues of Senna, I don't think it hypes the faults of Prost.

Just seems a very bitter man.