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[Andrew Charbonneau]

[Andrew Charbonneau]

well said not sure what you are syaing but the facts are clear you need help you quoted yourself is that waht lairers do i ment lawyers DAM THAT TERET heres the deal you are calling cheaters out so you say. hummm lets dance by the way i am a crack head for racing same drug whats your drug lying to a judge and charging too much money.
THAT JUST HAPPENED

[Jim Boemler]

Forms of address like "douche bag" aren't appropriate here -- have been, and will be, deleted. We're supposed to be friends here, guys. Friction happens, but we're in a sport together, supposedly because we enjoy the sport, and each other. All this name calling has just gotta go. I don't have any knowledge of Danny, Gary, Andrew, Kyle, or others here, but Danny's post at the head of this thread is worth reading again for everyone.

Stop the name calling and personal attacks, all of you, or your posts are going to vaporize.

[High Chair]

Forms of address like "douche bag" aren't appropriate here -- have been, and will be, deleted. We're supposed to be friends here, guys. Friction happens, but we're in a sport together, supposedly because we enjoy the sport, and each other. All this name calling has just gotta go. I don't have any knowledge of Danny, Gary, Andrew, Kyle, or others here, but Danny's post at the head of this thread is worth reading again for everyone.

Stop the name calling and personal attacks, all of you, or your posts are going to vaporize.

Roger!

[FlyByYou]

I am responding to the names he called me. Why dont you pull his post? He personally attacked me and you did nothing?

Is this a forum only to get attacked and not get it back?

Ok now I will clean it up and if I see a personal attack I will point it out to get it removed.

Gary

[Andrew Charbonneau]

I am responding to the names he called me. Why dont you pull his post? He personally attacked me and you did nothing?

Is this a forum only to get attacked and not get it back?

Ok now I will clean it up and if I see a personal attack I will point it out to get it removed.

Gary

hey gary I ATTACK YOU LOL

[High Chair]

I am responding to the names he called me. Why dont you pull his post? He personally attacked me and you did nothing?

Is this a forum only to get attacked and not get it back?

Ok now I will clean it up and if I see a personal attack I will point it out to get it removed.

Gary

[Jim Boemler]

I am responding to the names he called me. Why dont you pull his post? He personally attacked me and you did nothing?

Is this a forum only to get attacked and not get it back?

Ok now I will clean it up and if I see a personal attack I will point it out to get it removed.

Gary

Everybody seems to be "responding" to everyone else lately. And that's fine, as long as it's on the topic and civil. The lawyer joke thread was civil (at least to start). If it makes you feel any better, Andrew long ago set the record for Most Posts Deleted.

Feel free to report personal attacks and name calling, and know that they will be treated with an even hand. At the same time, passionate disagreement won't be moderated. It can be a fine line, but insulting names are definitely a clue.

[Andrew Charbonneau]

i love my stupid vidio

[Dan Cooper]

This has been a running joke for a while. I was not talking about videos from this past Road Atlanta just his claim he was down on power. Of course the videos were posted he ran 4th; which was my exact point. Pull up the Homestead National, VIR first race, and many more. However I did delete the post as it was off topic and better disscussed at a different time directly with him. That was my mistake!

10-4!

[FlyByYou]

There goes Von head at it again diverting this bull crap away from him and his cheating buddies. I was at the last 2 races where Jr won and he sat in tech and had no issues. By the way he won both races. As I also told you at his last event I asked him what happened and he explained to me he was breaking in a new engine and was down on power. But again you do not understand anything and only see things your way. The Von head way. I wish they broke down your car to check the rods, crank and metal coating in the rotating parts. You are so quick to attack everyone else to keep the eyes off you. You had way too much power on the straight. If you like I will find you a rental car to drive and I can drive yours. See what you can do then magic man. Why do you start so much trouble with the stuff that comes out of your mouth and the stupid videos. You are seriously mentally challenged. Lol

Von head now starting up with Danny. Danny is a great guy why attack him? Did you you’re your meds? Blame yourself for taking the sm down. Who wants to race out there for a 2 dollar trophy with a bag like you? You are also blaming Ernie Francis for what. He won the grand am race in B-Spec in the rain against a few top sm drivers. He posted about his win like they did publicly in Grand Am website. Where were you playing on videos or in your sm car. If you were so bad and a gift from god you should have been there. Since you were not you should keep your thoughts to yourself. You and your buddies are to blame for giving a bad rap to SM. Stop complaining. You guys are the biggest cheaters. MPR22 another ==== bag, hey if you were not there why open your mouth. This proves the point about some of you SM racers. You will never get anywhere in racing and end up staying in SM forever like Von Head. The big cheater fast cars were Von head, Nick and Alex. Wow they had big power down the straight. I was watching from the grandstand and see them just pull away. That’s power so I think you should divert your efforts to Von Head.
So the truth is out Von Head did not make it past high school..lol Who is he??? SM champion, so what, that means nothing to me. He is an amateur racer only racing SM, give me a break. How old is he and he is still only racing SM? Why did you never go Pro? As for you high chair I think you are just like him too. Because I drive a GT2 Porsche you think I cannot drive, you are so smart.lol A few years back I was running a Porsche Cup Car around the country to have fun and blow off steam. Sometimes I was in front and sometimes mid pack. I never ran across s---m like some of you that think they are the greatest and we must worship you. You throw out your name like I am supposed to know it, the only people that know it is in your small world of the SM jokers. Funny thing is I run a SM just for fun and that is all it is good for.
You said you were using a Rental car? Who’s car was it? With that much power what a joke. That car had some massive top speed. How fast were you going down the front straight? You know that motor is very strong with some internals done. Come one let it slip out. I think they need a dyno at the next events just for you front runner SM cars. Hey Von Head I will find a rental car for you to race at Sebring to see how you do. We need a Dyno for you top guys like Von head, High Chair and Nick. I am getting tired of seeing these guys pull away in the top end under power.

You see with people like Von head, Nick, Alex, High Chair, MPR22 constantly starting their crap we will never get along and it will only lead to a drop in SM new drivers. Some people thinking about going Pro will even run something else to stay away from the drama. You have one person that is delusional and mentally challenged playing videos and others that are so much full of it. I rather race my Porsche Cup car then deal with these ---.

Who else are they going to attack? Now after Danny, whos next? All I can say is stop drawing the attention to others when you are the real problem.

Gary

[Caveman-kwebb99]

There goes Von head at it again diverting this bull crap away from him and his cheating buddies. I was at the last 2 races where Jr won and he sat in tech and had no issues. By the way he won both races. As I also told you at his last event I asked him what happened and he explained to me he was breaking in a new engine and was down on power. But again you do not understand anything and only see things your way. The Von head way. I wish they broke down your car to check the rods, crank and metal coating in the rotating parts. You are so quick to attack everyone else to keep the eyes off you. You had way too much power on the straight. If you like I will find you a rental car to drive and I can drive yours. See what you can do then magic man. Why do you start so much trouble with the stuff that comes out of your mouth and the stupid videos. You are seriously mentally challenged. Lol

Von head now starting up with Danny. Danny is a great guy why attack him? Did you you’re your meds? Blame yourself for taking the sm down. Who wants to race out there for a 2 dollar trophy with a bag like you? You are also blaming Ernie Francis for what. He won the grand am race in B-Spec in the rain against a few top sm drivers. He posted about his win like they did publicly in Grand Am website. Where were you playing on videos or in your sm car. If you were so bad and a gift from god you should have been there. Since you were not you should keep your thoughts to yourself. You and your buddies are to blame for giving a bad rap to SM. Stop complaining. You guys are the biggest cheaters. MPR22 another ==== bag, hey if you were not there why open your mouth. This proves the point about some of you SM racers. You will never get anywhere in racing and end up staying in SM forever like Von Head. The big cheater fast cars were Von head, Nick and Alex. Wow they had big power down the straight. I was watching from the grandstand and see them just pull away. That’s power so I think you should divert your efforts to Von Head.
So the truth is out Von Head did not make it past high school..lol Who is he??? SM champion, so what, that means nothing to me. He is an amateur racer only racing SM, give me a break. How old is he and he is still only racing SM? Why did you never go Pro? As for you high chair I think you are just like him too. Because I drive a GT2 Porsche you think I cannot drive, you are so smart.lol A few years back I was running a Porsche Cup Car around the country to have fun and blow off steam. Sometimes I was in front and sometimes mid pack. I never ran across s---m like some of you that think they are the greatest and we must worship you. You throw out your name like I am supposed to know it, the only people that know it is in your small world of the SM jokers. Funny thing is I run a SM just for fun and that is all it is good for.
You said you were using a Rental car? Who’s car was it? With that much power what a joke. That car had some massive top speed. How fast were you going down the front straight? You know that motor is very strong with some internals done. Come one let it slip out. I think they need a dyno at the next events just for you front runner SM cars. Hey Von Head I will find a rental car for you to race at Sebring to see how you do. We need a Dyno for you top guys like Von head, High Chair and Nick. I am getting tired of seeing these guys pull away in the top end under power.

You see with people like Von head, Nick, Alex, High Chair, MPR22 constantly starting their crap we will never get along and it will only lead to a drop in SM new drivers. Some people thinking about going Pro will even run something else to stay away from the drama. You have one person that is delusional and mentally challenged playing videos and others that are so much full of it. I rather race my Porsche Cup car then deal with these ---.

Who else are they going to attack? Now after Danny, whos next? All I can say is stop drawing the attention to others when you are the real problem.

Gary

A few points
1 you sound like Ernie Sr.
2 Andy Charbs drives SM because it is the best class in the country, he could easily drive WC or GA if he wanted to.
3 He only attacks Cheaters, Cheetahs, and 1 particular South African, and Now Lawyers,
4 Gary you stil talking alot of CRAP, and only using your first name... Arte you ashamed of tying what you say to who you really are?
5 I was not there, and I know Ern Jr. drives good, I also know Charbs drives great... I can beat Ernie Jr. and have, have never been within 1 second a lap to Charbs
6 Charbs has big hp, So does every front running SCCA driver from 125-128hp. Beleive it or not you dont have to cheat to get that much
7 Charbs didnt beat me at Road ATL, cause he has more hp, he smoked me as did alot of others, on driving ability and track knowledge.
8 Bring a dyno to your next NASA event, better yet, break Tucker or Andrew down to the crank... when they pass maybe shut the hell up?
9 "From some of these recent threads I think outsiders will see passionate people who want to keep SM legal, that will attract more talent, (name calling not so much)
10 Ernie Jr. is a good kid, and a good driver, he should keep up his effort, adn live his dreams, albeit in a legal car... Jr. hold your head high and keep it up!

[Cnj]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pzOx-Zzh2k
THIS IS FOR ALL OF MY AFRICAN SM DRIVERS

OK - its time to speak.

Carbs, I've watched you go after Danny for the last few years. I don't know him, I don't know you and I don't know your joint history but each time he posts anything you come after him with a vengance. I have no problem about you arguing about driving, car speed or anything to do with racing but I have seen you post videos suggesting he is a racist several times (the whole apartheid post), baiting him with an African American women video - and now this video and the BBC video. Yeah I got what you were trying to say even if others on the forum did not get your message. I'm sure Danny got it as well. Your anger appears deep seated and I suspect is more than about racing.

So I come from South Africa and now you just decided to widen your shotgun blast and include me in your sights with your racist name calling. Apart from the fact that this is a racing forum and political comments should not be part of it, these posts are incredibly naive. You don't know me, you don't know other African drivers that might be on this forum and reading a newspaper during the apartheid years does not make you an expert on the diverse views of white South Africans or thier actions during or following that time. If you want to discuss my views of the evilness and total moral bankruptcy of the apartheid systems and my actions during that time (while I assume you sat safe in Florida criticizing from afar), PM me, but dont post videos/posts questioning my role in that mess. You know nothing about me.

cnj

[High Chair]

OK - its time to speak.

Carbs, I've watched you go after Danny for the last few years. I don't know him, I don't know you and I don't know your joint history but each time he posts anything you come after him with a vengance. I have no problem about you arguing about driving, car speed or anything to do with racing but I have seen you post videos suggesting he is a racist several times (the whole apartheid post), baiting him with an African American women video - and now this video and the BBC video. Yeah I got what you were trying to say even if others on the forum did not get your message. I'm sure Danny got it as well. Your anger appears deep seated and I suspect is more than about racing.

So I come from South Africa and now you just decided to widen your shotgun blast and include me in your sights with your racist name calling. Apart from the fact that this is a racing forum and political comments should not be part of it, these posts are incredibly naive. You don't know me, you don't know other African drivers that might be on this forum and reading a newspaper during the apartheid years does not make you an expert on the diverse views of white South Africans or thier actions during or following that time. If you want to discuss my views of the evilness and total moral bankruptcy of the apartheid systems and my actions during that time (while I assume you sat safe in Florida criticizing from afar), PM me, but dont post videos/posts questioning my role in that mess. You know nothing about me.

cnj

cnj,
I understand your feelings about South Africa and I can't disagree with them. However I can guarantee Charbs intention was not to make light of apartheid or South Africa but just Danny himself. Yes Danny is a target and yes there are reasons why but please keep in mind that many of us see each other on a regular basses so this is not just some random internet attack. Although sometimes lines do get crossed unintentionally.
JT

[Caveman-kwebb99]

OK - its time to speak.

Carbs, I've watched you go after Danny for the last few years. I don't know him, I don't know you and I don't know your joint history but each time he posts anything you come after him with a vengance. I have no problem about you arguing about driving, car speed or anything to do with racing but I have seen you post videos suggesting he is a racist several times (the whole apartheid post), baiting him with an African American women video - and now this video and the BBC video. Yeah I got what you were trying to say even if others on the forum did not get your message. I'm sure Danny got it as well. Your anger appears deep seated and I suspect is more than about racing.

So I come from South Africa and now you just decided to widen your shotgun blast and include me in your sights with your racist name calling. Apart from the fact that this is a racing forum and political comments should not be part of it, these posts are incredibly naive. You don't know me, you don't know other African drivers that might be on this forum and reading a newspaper during the apartheid years does not make you an expert on the diverse views of white South Africans or thier actions during or following that time. If you want to discuss my views of the evilness and total moral bankruptcy of the apartheid systems and my actions during that time (while I assume you sat safe in Florida criticizing from afar), PM me, but dont post videos/posts questioning my role in that mess. You know nothing about me.

cnj

CNJ, i hope this post wasnt spurned from my previous post, I corrected my points, to say 1 particular south african, meant as Danny.

[Andrew Charbonneau]

OK - its time to speak.

Carbs, I've watched you go after Danny for the last few years. I don't know him, I don't know you and I don't know your joint history but each time he posts anything you come after him with a vengance. I have no problem about you arguing about driving, car speed or anything to do with racing but I have seen you post videos suggesting he is a racist several times (the whole apartheid post), baiting him with an African American women video - and now this video and the BBC video. Yeah I got what you were trying to say even if others on the forum did not get your message. I'm sure Danny got it as well. Your anger appears deep seated and I suspect is more than about racing.

So I come from South Africa and now you just decided to widen your shotgun blast and include me in your sights with your racist name calling. Apart from the fact that this is a racing forum and political comments should not be part of it, these posts are incredibly naive. You don't know me, you don't know other African drivers that might be on this forum and reading a newspaper during the apartheid years does not make you an expert on the diverse views of white South Africans or thier actions during or following that time. If you want to discuss my views of the evilness and total moral bankruptcy of the apartheid systems and my actions during that time (while I assume you sat safe in Florida criticizing from afar), PM me, but dont post videos/posts questioning my role in that mess. You know nothing about me.

cnj

the meaning was for the intended target i needed a buffalo soldier to shot down the buffalo frankley all my vidios have meaning that are much deeper than racial and political
they are for th sole purpose for fun mybe on the behalf of others . thats is what is called satire

Satire is primarily a literary genre or form, although in practice it can also be found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement.^[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon

[Andrew Charbonneau]

And this is how it works ernie sr cnj i am sorry i will not pick on south africa again but IM STILL GOING TO PICK ON DANNY

[High Chair]

There goes Von head at it again diverting this bull crap away from him and his cheating buddies. I was at the last 2 races where Jr won and he sat in tech and had no issues. By the way he won both races. As I also told you at his last event I asked him what happened and he explained to me he was breaking in a new engine and was down on power. But again you do not understand anything and only see things your way. The Von head way. I wish they broke down your car to check the rods, crank and metal coating in the rotating parts. You are so quick to attack everyone else to keep the eyes off you. You had way too much power on the straight. If you like I will find you a rental car to drive and I can drive yours. See what you can do then magic man. Why do you start so much trouble with the stuff that comes out of your mouth and the stupid videos. You are seriously mentally challenged. Lol

Von head now starting up with Danny. Danny is a great guy why attack him? Did you you’re your meds? Blame yourself for taking the sm down. Who wants to race out there for a 2 dollar trophy with a bag like you? You are also blaming Ernie Francis for what. He won the grand am race in B-Spec in the rain against a few top sm drivers. He posted about his win like they did publicly in Grand Am website. Where were you playing on videos or in your sm car. If you were so bad and a gift from god you should have been there. Since you were not you should keep your thoughts to yourself. You and your buddies are to blame for giving a bad rap to SM. Stop complaining. You guys are the biggest cheaters. MPR22 another ==== bag, hey if you were not there why open your mouth. This proves the point about some of you SM racers. You will never get anywhere in racing and end up staying in SM forever like Von Head. The big cheater fast cars were Von head, Nick and Alex. Wow they had big power down the straight. I was watching from the grandstand and see them just pull away. That’s power so I think you should divert your efforts to Von Head.
So the truth is out Von Head did not make it past high school..lol Who is he??? SM champion, so what, that means nothing to me. He is an amateur racer only racing SM, give me a break. How old is he and he is still only racing SM? Why did you never go Pro? As for you high chair I think you are just like him too. Because I drive a GT2 Porsche you think I cannot drive, you are so smart.lol A few years back I was running a Porsche Cup Car around the country to have fun and blow off steam. Sometimes I was in front and sometimes mid pack. I never ran across s---m like some of you that think they are the greatest and we must worship you. You throw out your name like I am supposed to know it, the only people that know it is in your small world of the SM jokers. Funny thing is I run a SM just for fun and that is all it is good for.
You said you were using a Rental car? Who’s car was it? With that much power what a joke. That car had some massive top speed. How fast were you going down the front straight? You know that motor is very strong with some internals done. Come one let it slip out. I think they need a dyno at the next events just for you front runner SM cars. Hey Von Head I will find a rental car for you to race at Sebring to see how you do. We need a Dyno for you top guys like Von head, High Chair and Nick. I am getting tired of seeing these guys pull away in the top end under power.

You see with people like Von head, Nick, Alex, High Chair, MPR22 constantly starting their crap we will never get along and it will only lead to a drop in SM new drivers. Some people thinking about going Pro will even run something else to stay away from the drama. You have one person that is delusional and mentally challenged playing videos and others that are so much full of it. I rather race my Porsche Cup car then deal with these ---.

Who else are they going to attack? Now after Danny, whos next? All I can say is stop drawing the attention to others when you are the real problem.

Gary

Saying that I am the same as Von C is a compliment in every respect. I drive pretty well but he still has a slight edge when he gets behind the wheel. As far as any of us going pro it is obvious that you don't know much about racing. Very (read almost nobody) becomes a paid road course driver in the US. Yes there are a lot of so-called pro series but even there most of the drivers buy rides. As far as B-spec goes how cares; at this point it is only for show. Since you believe that the front runners are cheaters please feel free to protest at any time. The engine in my car has been torn all the way down and found to be just fine, so hasn't Von Cs. Alex uses the same engine builder and I know for a fact he is legal. You want to know what my car makes? 126/119 under the current rules. I still need more power as I am down to other legal cars such as Drago, Pat, etc but my motor has been so reliable I do not wish to tear it down yet. But you didn't hear me bitching about HPs after the VIR national nor was there any talk about cheating between drivers. Thats because the top 6 were dead equal and separated by less the 1.5 seconds at the finish (easily the top 10 were equal in straight line speed). You may not know this but we have been doing this for a long time so when JR posted his video in combination with eye witness accounts it painted a clear picture that Jrs car was not legal. As a result people are calling out SR as they should.
You made my day.

[High Chair]

And this is how it works ernie sr cnj i am sorry i will not pick on south africa again but IM STILL GOING TO PICK ON DANNY

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[High Chair]

Everybody seems to be "responding" to everyone else lately. And that's fine, as long as it's on the topic and civil. The lawyer joke thread was civil (at least to start). If it makes you feel any better, Andrew long ago set the record for Most Posts Deleted.

Feel free to report personal attacks and name calling, and know that they will be treated with an even hand. At the same time, passionate disagreement won't be moderated. It can be a fine line, but insulting names are definitely a clue.

Damn! Andrew is the champ again???