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[Andrew Charbonneau]

MR RIggns or anonymous Quote (Now Andrew, Jeff, Chains, Tucker and whoever else is in your mean girl club this week, don't act too tough cause in the end, you're racing a miata.)

FRist I would like to say In my short and alustrious carreer I chalang you to find someone who has been run off the track or crashed on purpose buy me,cliff or jamie tucker. The boys club.

we have one female racer in or club and i bet she is better looking than you.

Has for the runnoff vidio you can look at it in two ways , intent two cars moving over to the left and the back car being blocked by the rules . jeff moves back to the right catches bumper not hard
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does spin silver car who i wont mention but might be you.IF you watched the whole vidio jeff gets pussed wide in the previous cornor also a high speed with cement wall on the right nothing said about that.
I myself consider me as a clean drive and chalange anyone to a dual on this comment ive been raced dirty before and dont have the guts to spin someone but i do have no fear telling them what i feel.

OK, if you know jeff he helps everyone in the paddock if he can. For many years he has been in racing for along time and has alot of experiance. not a mean bone in his body.He also is not a public

speacker on this post and will not be so yes we will defend the right to speak in his behalf even if it makes him look bad im not the best author or writer.


YES it is a miata which in my eyes is a safe car and a great car to race. Ck the circle track race vidio. The owner of the track said that we put on a better show that the late models, and my new race fan loved me in the white and black car. May I ask what do you drive and race . please respond

[Andrew Charbonneau]

TOO butch it was nice meeting you I think you do one hell of a job and you paddock nazi does ok too DO YOU HAVE YOUR PRO-IT STICKER DAMIT.

AS YOU know i helped at reg on fri if that happens again please make track announcement and we will come the girls and boys who work for free

andrew charbonneau AKA NATIONAL CHAMP thanks you

and jimmy boy creighton also

[Andrew Charbonneau]

drago remind me to spin you next time i see you

[Ron Alan]

Having complete Dejavu on the "Riggins" post...maybe even the same subject??

Whats important to remember is "incidents" are just that, incidents. And throwing paper at them, as SAE113 says, is not necessary or likely in most cases. But when the "incidents" turn into "patterns" is when all need sit back and reflect on why your out there??

[Bench Racer]

A couple years ago at the June Sprints I was in the Carousel exit watching the Production car qualifying as there was an issue with the track becoming full course yellow. As I was leaving the Carousel I viewed the accident results outside T 8. E vehicles were all ready on the seen, the Med copter arrived in a few minutes landing on track as three copter E people attended the situation while copter motor was running. One of the copter people returned to shut the copter motor off. I sat there with a heavy hart because one didn't need to be told the final of this sad story.

This was a one car issue. Now imagine being a second car involved that created an issue like this.

[Riggins]

Andrew, I've never heard of a single issue with regards to how you conduct yourself on the track. Though defending some of these actions paints you with the same brush. Swerving over on someone and giving them the bird is not as funny to others as it seems to you.

Pombo's rather late and aggressive move to the left presented Jeff L with a quick choice- lift and lose some of the run or turn him. He chose to turn him. Any additional context is as specious as the second gunman in the grassy knoll.

At the NASA race the mean girls said Jeff's car accidentally slid as he was rushing to confront someone, leading to a year's suspension and a police escort. At the runoff's it's explained as an accident. On this one, the guy was all over the place and Jeff had no place to go. And your boy Chains calls someone who was lifeflighted out a "disease," such class.

Kudos to whoever it was that called Jeff L an epidemic. And shame to the SCCA officials who whether they blame circumstance, rules, or a lame 30 minute rule as to a reason to allow further racing of someone who drives like this.

PS Ron, Yogi Berra is a great man.

[Andrew Charbonneau]

Wow arm chair warrior did you watch the rest of vidio and see the 29 lean on 03 coming out of 5

and what do you race and how close is your class in miata top 30 guys could win any given day.

Not defending jeff but i am defending the fact that you werent there and that you are attacking someone on open forum i will give you his number and you can call him and tell him how you feel.

[seege]

Wow arm chair warrior did you watch the rest of vidio and see the 29 lean on 03 coming out of 5

and what do you race and how close is your class in miata top 30 guys could win any given day.

Not defending jeff but i am defending the fact that you werent there and that you are attacking someone on open forum i will give you his number and you can call him and tell him how you feel.

What many people are saying in this and other threads is: the exchanging of phone numbers system has gotten things this far... IT AINT WORKIN!

[High Chair]

Andrew, I've never heard of a single issue with regards to how you conduct yourself on the track. Though defending some of these actions paints you with the same brush. Swerving over on someone and giving them the bird is not as funny to others as it seems to you.

Pombo's rather late and aggressive move to the left presented Jeff L with a quick choice- lift and lose some of the run or turn him. He chose to turn him. Any additional context is as specious as the second gunman in the grassy knoll.

At the NASA race the mean girls said Jeff's car accidentally slid as he was rushing to confront someone, leading to a year's suspension and a police escort. At the runoff's it's explained as an accident. On this one, te guy was all over the place and Jeff had no place to go. And your boy Chains calls someone who was life flighted out a "disease," such class.

Kudos to whoever it was that called Jeff L an epidemic. And shame to the SCCA officials who whether they blame circumstance, rules, or a lame 30 minute rule as to a reason to allow further racing of someone who drives like this.

PS Ron, Yogi Berra is a great man.

I am sure you are the same person who ran off at the mouth when Jeff turned Pombo but so be it. However you do have your facts wrong about the circumstances involved in this case. The person Jeff got into it with was not the driver that got life flighted out. That was a one car crash! So Cliff was not referring to the injured driver as a diseases but instead was referring to Voytec who essentially crashed himself by the way he was driving. No less than 10 top national drivers have had issues with him over the last 4 races and it finally resulted in a crash. I am not defending Jeff as I was not there and I have not seen a Video that shows the crash but I have been run off the track many times by Voytec. I doubt you will find anybody that will say the same about me or any other member of the MGC. It sucks for everyone involved to be for sure. The moral of the story is don't block and everything will be fine. However at this point I would keep my identity hidden as well.

[Andrew Charbonneau]

i am availible 24-7 ask danny stein i call him at 2.00 am befrore every race. and you can call me 561-573-1132 any time i will even talk dirty for you

[Andrew Charbonneau]

call me

[Caveman-kwebb99]

i am availible 24-7 ask danny stein i call him at 2.00 am befrore every race. and you can call me 561-573-1132 any time i will even talk dirty for you

So.... My first comment on this thread!

Can I call you at that number for free coaching?

I am talking about driver coaching (not you tube coaching)!

I will pass on the dirty talk, 900 is the place for that just doesn't seem right getting that for free!

[Caveman-kwebb99]

Just trying lighten things up a bit hahahaha!

[Andrew Charbonneau]

yes i am availible for verbal coaching and yes you can call would be fun for a vebal chalange instead of my bad grammer and typing

[Caveman-kwebb99]

yes i am availible for verbal coaching and yes you can call would be fun for a vebal chalange instead of my bad grammer and typing

Haha to funny - was actually only half kidding with the post, would love some coaching as I would like to be one of the top 20-30 miata raceers!

And I was not challenging you, maybe baiting you but not challenging!

The challenge would be the coaching!

[Andrew Charbonneau]

I get it i was kidding also still like talking mybe i could coach waterboy

[Andrew Charbonneau]

For the folks who think the officals are missing things you nay sayers are Idiots spend more time talking with them like i do, they know more about you then you do

write the paper if you feel becareful what you say because it could bite you in the ass.

[Riggins]

HighChair, thanks for the clarification. Chains, my apologies as it was obviously my mistake. Seems that there were several crashes in this SM race.

Andrew, I have no need to call Jeff. Am I supposed to tell him that he shouldn't wreck people? You'd think he would know that by now. Even if Voyteck deserved contact, and it sounds like he did, you don't do it at over 100mph. Hell, walk up and deck the guy after the race, at least that's a fair fight. Jeff L, after hitting the car in impound at Mid O, turning Pombo at over 100 mph, and doing the same last weekend shouldn't have a license.

[Andrew Charbonneau]

We the calander boys accept for your mistake jeff has paid his dus to nasa he can not race there what is your point buy the way the nasa thing was off the track come again
and get the facts
road america champion race if pombo was holding him up why did he BLOCK

voytec is cool in my book he did not need to be spun but somone was going to do it sometime not me

bye the way are you a democrat . nothing personal

[Caveman-kwebb99]

We the calander boys accept for your mistake jeff has paid his dus to nasa he can not race there what is your point buy the way the nasa thing was off the track come again
and get the facts
road america champion race if pombo was holding him up why did he BLOCK

voytec is cool in my book he did not need to be spun but somone was going to do it sometime not me

bye the way are you a democrat . nothing personal

I THINK RIGGINS IS ACTUALLY STEVE RATTNER OBAMA'S CAR ZSAR! HE HELPED GM NOW THAT HE GOT THE WORLD OUT OF THAT JAM HE CAN DEVOTE HIS TIME TO SAVING SM!